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    Good morning all,

    Good job on your loses! Powered it sounds like your planned interruption was successful. Did you gain wait while you were on it? Is it coming off more quickly than it was just up to the interruption?

    As for me, I skipped 174 and went from 175.1 to 173.9.

    Today I am fighting mad. I am a travel healthcare worker and rent a lot of apartments. I always get my full security deposit back. This last apartment is trying to charge me for cleaning even though the place was move in ready for the next person and said they had to replace to carpet on the stairs because of cat urine stains/odor.

    My cats always use their litter box. If anything my cat would scratch on the carpet but I went through and vacuumed each stair and trimmed any unraveling fibers. Of course these witches won't answer their phone.

    Has anyone had to fight a company for their deposit back? Any suggestions? I have about 50 pictures of a 600 foot studio proving it was clean and there's no carpet stains or large holes in the screen they "replaced".

    So mad.

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    Somehow I was down today to 164.8 do moving on. This is kind of a vanity 10 lbs or wiggle room as I call it. I feel strong and healthy which I love. Hope to read everyoneís success stories today!


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    Good morning lovelies!

    I will be reading back later today. Just wanted to say that there are some good articles on this website about sleep issues in P2, also google sleep issues remedies and HCG. I have found melatonin an hour before bed to be very helpful. I also limit a nap ( if I take 1) to 30 minutes.

    Emily: regarding your security deposit. I live in California so what I’m saying may not apply to you. I would tell them you plan on filing a lawsuit in small claims court and doing that. I would also tell them that their actions will force you to write Social media posts to warn others. If you have a library nearby (Our libraries have e books free to check out on this from NOLO) or Google there is a great website called NOLO “The tenants rights book “ or something like that (and they make state specific ones). They will have demand letters to send and also they have a website. It Is the great way to go. I have used those books as a landlord and they are very helpful. Just so you know, I used to be a tenant and I always make sure to give back the security deposits. I do walk-throughs with my tenants two weeks before Move out and three days before Move out so everyone knows what they need to do. It works great because then I can have a new person moving very quickly and everyone gets their money back so they’re really happy. Most of my tenants are very long term though and rarely move. If you file in small claims court in California you can also file for your court costs and any emotional distress and inconvenience. In some states you can even get travel costs. Usually a letter that you intend to file is enough to get them to back off and I noticed that the tenants always do very well in small claims court in California when I have gone with friends on other issues.

    Regarding PI weight gain: I never panic if I have gone up substantially as I tend to drop the additional weight within 3 to 4 days after the PI.

    AFM: I have shockingly good news. I am 2 pounds underneath my goal weight. I had planned this because I noticed that I am such a P3 dummy that somehow I always go up slightly over two pounds in P3. Then I start the correction day roller coaster which I think contributes to me having troubles.

    So this time: I am going to increase my Armour Thyroid Dose back up to pre-hHCG Level right away (in previous rounds my thyroid tanked and I regained weight), my doctor wants me to come in for a blood test every 10 days to make sure my thyroid does not drop when I no longer have the support of hHCG, and I have given myself this 2 pound cushion. P3 is always very difficult for me when my weight really fluctuates so I am hoping this will help me manage my previous issues. It’s very silly but I always feel reluctant to leave P2. Today I start to end around by doing the two 500 calorie days without the pellets.

    If you have any P3 tips and suggestions please let me know! I would love to be in lifelong maintenance and stay at goal!

    Have a lovely day!
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    Subtle reminder for myself this AM. I had a old dietician remind me once that food has zero control over your decisions if you donít give it your fear. Choosing myself and not to be a victim of food ever again.

    Headed down to 20 pound town!



    Have a problem with a business not meeting your expectations? Lawyer up? Small claims court?

    Naw... Find a friendly local chapter of the BBB to ensure they make right what they were suppose to. Itís free and if supports commence working for you... The customer!


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    Looks like everyone is doing great and a couple headed into P3! I'm stuck this week, scale does not want to conform to my will, LOL:
    VLCD 6: 190.8, Day 7: 190.8, Day 8: 190.7, Day 9: 188.1 (finally..but wait for it), Day 10: 187.6, Day 11: 187.6, day 12: 187.4

    Still 2.5 weeks to go, so there is still some time


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    Thanks RKthin. They sent me the pictures they took and told me the place was dirty and smelled of cat urine. I think it's because the litter box is the last thing I take out. The pictures are like a black light pic with a small streak lit up... Probably something I tracked in on my shoes. There were two of those but apparently they were over the whole carpet, but they only took two pics and no pics of stains on the underside of the carpet when they pulled it up. Then it's like pictures of like... A hair on the floor. Glue that has discolored in the dishwasher. One spot of something in the dishwasher. A mark on a baseboard. It's really petty stuff.


    Anyways, I am down a smidge today, day 18 and almost down 14 lbs total to 173.5. I was too upset to eat much yesterday and missed dinner. I really think my heart was skipping beats talking on the phone to these people and I wondered if it was the hcg or having caffeine in the morning. It was kind of scary.

    A shirt I tried to squeeze into last week fits me this week. I'm not sure how much more I can pull out of the vial I have mixed now so I will probably mix the new one soon and just go until I can't mentally do it or run out. I'm really not sure if I will keep losing weight so steadily, my loses this week have been pretty good, I wonder when they will start slowing down.

    Anyways, thanks for listening to me rant.

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    Just a check in on P4 138.4 Under LIW 5.8 lbs
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    2011 R1 start 206 R2 6/2011 176 R3 03/2013 156 R4 06/29/2014 162.R5 05/09/2015 154.4 R6 2017 148.2 liw 137.6 R7 Start 149.2 LDW 137.2 R8 151.4. LIW 142.8 4/4 /19 P4 4/27 141.6R9 3/8/20 160.2 liw 144.2 P4 5/12 141.4 Day 150 137.4

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    I had a sandwich for lunch and am trying to tell myself I can't have a seafood boil and cocktail for dinner. Hellpppp

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    163.6 chugging along on day 2 of vlcd but day 30 after my PI. I being in the 150s is going to feel amazing! I feel really thin.

    Keep on losing, ladies!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by emilyc88 View Post
    I had a sandwich for lunch and am trying to tell myself I can't have a seafood boil and cocktail for dinner. Hellpppp
    "Carbs or Cocktails" is my motto, but if you can do it, go for it!!!

    I'm 187.$%!*& today......Day 4 of stall. Want to join my pity party?


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    I feel your pain Maxi. I have crab and shrimp for dinner, skipped the butter and everything but it was a lot of food. I'll pay for it tomorrow but right now it was just nice to feel normal today, especially with my heart skipping around yesterday.

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    Good morning, all. I have been over in the men's area but other than me and a couple moderators, not much going on over there. It is good to see this thread being so active and there are some really good comments and observations.

    Here is my current situation: I had a round in January where I got my weight down to 215lbs. That is thin for me. I am 6'1" and built like a linebacker. At my lightest with under 10% body fat (college), I was around 200-205lbs. Then covid happened. Locked in and nothing to do but BBQ and drink wine and beer. I still played a ton of tennis but the weight crept up just north of my starting point before my January round. But life happens. You just get back on the horse.

    My original plan was to do another round in January 2021 but decided to jump up the next round to this month. I asked my wife if she wanted to take part in it (really expecting her to say no) and she enthusiastically agreed. She had bariatric surgery last summer. Lost about 80lbs in the last year, but lately I can see some really bad habits coming back. Eating some bad foods, and she is pushing the envelope. She wasn't gaining weight but was basically stalled. She was ready for something different.

    So there we were. We dropped our son off at school for his freshman year away at college and started loading for a 23 day round (2.0 protocol). That was 14 days ago. We are both rolling along with our round with solid losses on pounds and more importantly, inches. Today is a milestone. We have reached the halfway point of VLCD. Always a good day. I have to say that this round has been the easiest round I have experienced yet. Not hungry at all. Food cravings are the lowest I have experienced on this diet. I have yet to crave a glass of red wine. Yet. To be honest, I probably burned myself out on red wine during the lockdown and needed a break.

    I love seeing a lot of the same people being a part of this site. A lot of familiar names/faces. Which leads me to a very important conclusion that I am coming around to. The HCG diet is more of a lifestyle than a short term diet. Some probably don't want to hear that as they want to use this as a "one-off" tool to carve off some weight and go on with their normal lives. If you read my journies on the mens board you will see me mention a couple times that my plan was to drop weight so I can go back to normal modes of weight loss. It just hasn't happened that way for me. I have a succesful round, then after phase 3, the weight slowly creeps back. I do not go back to eating processed foods, carbs and sugars. My diet is mainly keto. My main vice is wine and beer. My problems really happen when beer gets mixed in. But I am not going to change that. It is nice to have a cold beer, especially after a 3 hour round of tennis. Life is for living and no sense depriving ourselves of the simple pleasures. Just keep in balance.

    So this is a lifestyle? Yes, I think it is. Everybody starts out losing excess weight. Once you get to your goal weight, you will do maintenance rounds to carve off the creep-up weight. These rounds are beneficial because they give you a break from bad habits that creep in. If I am doing 1 round per year at minimum for the foreseeable future, I see no problem with that. It works for me. It seems to work for others here as well. Others out there, I always spread the word. Most are not interested. Okay with me.

    Some comments from being on my 4th round in a 2 year period:

    1. 2.0 protocol is FAR better than original protocol. It is not even close. There is absolutely no way I would do 4 rounds of original protocol as it is unnecessarily rigid and honestly just doesn't make sense (cannot mix vegetables? come on.) Just remember that Simeons designed the protocol for obese people to do this diet under 24/7 medical supervision. Once again, not realistic. But it works. My results on 2.0 have been just as good as on OP.

    2. Track everything. I have a spreadsheet where I track weight every day of the round. I also track measurements of hips, waist and thighs. I measure every Monday. Track both weight and measurements. I cannot stress the importance of tracking measurements. It is about pounds and inches. Not just pounds. The great thing about this diet is that you mainly lose body fat weight while maintaining lean muscle mass. No other diet does that as effectively as the HCG protocol.

    3. Keep the food simple for the most part. At least at first. A simple grilled or baked piece of fish with some steamed green beans is good enough. As long as the fish is fresh, you are good to go. Don't try to make dishes that mock a treat meal. Don't try to make something taste like pizza. It will just come up short and make you crave pizza.

    4. But you are going to have to spice things up a bit for sanity sakes from time to time. This is where sugar free gum and sugar free mints come in. My wife is keeping her sanity going with sugar free gum. That is her cheat and it really isn't too bad of a thing. But YMMV on that one so weigh every day, record your daily weight to make sure that it isn't a detriment. Also, while you are keeping your meals basic, it is advisable to go spicey on your seasoning. Just because your meals are bland should mean your seasoning should follow suit. Cajun seasonings are great. Or just add some cayenne or chili powder. Be aggressive with spices.

    5. Lettuce wrap burgers rock. I make 2oz lean beef patties on my grill and keep them in the fridge. Wrap a patty in an iceberg lettuce leaf (the best lettuce for wraps in my opinion and I have tried them all) with a slice of onion, tomato and pickle and a squeeze of mustard and you are all set. Tastes like a whataburger (Texas thing). Feels like you are totally cheating but you are not. Next week, I am making turkey taco meat for lettuce wrap tacos with pico de gallo. Still well within 2.0 protocol and tastes good. Still simple enough. You could even veer off and make it more of a curry and dress the wrap with a cucumber mint salsa. August down in the Southwest means hatch chilis are in. Turkey/green chili stew is well within protocol and is very satisfying.

    6. Weight loss isn't linear after the first week where you consistently lose excess water weight. Once you get into the second week, weight loss is a stair-stepped pattern of losses and plateaus. Some days you might see a slight gain. This is just how this diet goes. Don't sweat the scale. Just understand this is how the process goes. In fact, when you are in a plateau, some good things are happening in your body. You are actually mobilizing fat and the inches are coming off. Jessie has alluded to this in several posts.

    7. Once the round is over, don't neglect the scale. Weigh yourself every morning. That is my weak spot. If I would have followed this advice, I probably wouldn't be on this round right now. But life goes on.

    8. The spreadsheet where you track your progress? Keep it. Trust me, you will want to check in on it later, especially on future rounds for comparison.

    9. Sparkling water is awesome. Perrier, Pellegrino or Topo Chico unflavored is a guilty pleasure of mine. When sitting on the patio, where I would otherwise have a beer or glass of wine in hand. That is what I am drinking. I love it. Put it in a wine glass if it makes you feel festive. I just drink out of the bottle.

    10. Exercise: If you were exercising before your round, keep doing it. Just be careful and do not over do it. In fact whatever you were doing cut down on it. Say you are jogging for 2 miles 5 days a week. You might want to cut it down to 1 mile 3-4 days. And as you reach the last couple of weeks where your fuel tank is really depleted, you really should cut it down further. What you absolutely should not do is increase exercise or start a new regimen during phase 2. Once you hit phase 3 the green light is on. I play a lot of tennis and have been trial and erroring the hell out of this one. I get towards the end of my round and I can feel the lighter body weight and want to push it. But I do not have the fuel in my system and my body breaks down. I had a pretty bad injury towards the end of my round which was directly related to pushing it too hard without the proper nutrition to hold my body up to the abuse. I have a lot of tennis planned in the next couple days and will really need to be careful. But it can be done. Just get a little extra protein in your system before and after.

    Anyway, sorry to hijack and go long winded. I wish you guys luck. You are definitely in the right place and on the right path. Just trust the process and stay the course and keep coming back.

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