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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsstrong View Post
    I stick to keto desserts and love them! Low carb. I posted a low carb pumpkin pie recipe earlier too: https://againstallgrain.com/2011/11/...e-pumpkin-pie/
    I skip the sweetener in the crust and use 1/3 cup of Swerve instead of honey in the filling. So good.
    OK, this is something that seriously tempts me. I do love pumpkin pie. Is this appropriate for P3? That's when I'd make it--for T-Gives. I've bookmarked it! Thank you!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineMissM View Post
    OK, this is something that seriously tempts me. I do love pumpkin pie. Is this appropriate for P3? That's when I'd make it--for T-Gives. I've bookmarked it! Thank you!!
    I don't think so because of the Swerve? I keep it for P4. I had to learn to love pumpkin pie not being American, but now I love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsstrong View Post
    I don't think so because of the Swerve? I keep it for P4. I had to learn to love pumpkin pie not being American, but now I love it!
    PS: you could try Stevia? I typically don't like stevia much in baked foods though. I plan on making a grain-free, sugar-free apple crisp for Thanksgiving for P3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsstrong View Post
    PS: you could try Stevia? I typically don't like stevia much in baked foods though. I plan on making a grain-free, sugar-free apple crisp for Thanksgiving for P3.
    Stevia is a good idea, but I'm with you on stevia in baked goods. Not really worth it. I'm not using it all in P2. I'd rather just go without.

    The apple crisp sounds smart!

    I don't know how I'll do T-Gives yet. My doc's office recommends 8 weeks of stabilization rather than 3. But if I end P2 Nov. 1, that will give me three full weeks of P3 before Nov. 26. I really would like a slice of that pumpkin pie, especially because I will be having company. I'm thinking I might do that. And if needed just do a steak day Nov. 27 then get right back to stabilization. . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineMissM View Post
    Stevia is a good idea, but I'm with you on stevia in baked goods. Not really worth it. I'm not using it all in P2. I'd rather just go without.

    The apple crisp sounds smart!

    I don't know how I'll do T-Gives yet. My doc's office recommends 8 weeks of stabilization rather than 3. But if I end P2 Nov. 1, that will give me three full weeks of P3 before Nov. 26. I really would like a slice of that pumpkin pie, especially because I will be having company. I'm thinking I might do that. And if needed just do a steak day Nov. 27 then get right back to stabilization. . . .
    Well, Simeons says 3 so I would use Swerve after 3 weeks for a Thanksgiving treat! Simeons worked this plan out for 40 years And right, keep it sensible and I doubt you'll have to do a steak day if all the foods are foods that don't make you gain. I'd prove all the ingredients separately first so you know nuts or anything else is not the culprit of a gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsstrong View Post
    I'd prove all the ingredients separately first so you know nuts or anything else is not the culprit of a gain.
    VERY good idea, thank you!

    The reason my doc's office says 8 weeks for stabilization is in their experience people do better keeping the weight off long term with a longer stabilization period. That makes sense to me. And so does giving myself a little bit of practiced leeway on Thanksgiving Day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineMissM View Post
    VERY good idea, thank you!

    The reason my doc's office says 8 weeks for stabilization is in their experience people do better keeping the weight off long term with a longer stabilization period. That makes sense to me. And so does giving myself a little bit of practiced leeway on Thanksgiving Day!
    I see her point but I also agree with Mrs Strong.. Dr Simmeons took years to perfect the protocol and it proves that it works...
    The importance of P3 is to "lock 'in" your last injection weight and you will know how stable you are.... If you split P3 into 3 sections...
    week 1 basically the same as P2 but increase calories... and venture to extra proteins and different veggies and introducing fats....
    Week 2 to be a bit more adventurous and increasing calories further
    Week 3 is if you are stable introduce a bit more and maybe the odd glass of wine etc....
    So Dr Simmeons says.... at this point you should be locked in...that being said... locked in will be if you maintained your weight withing the 2lbs up or down...

    Then at this point in time you start P4.... This is another 3 weeks... this is not your forever after... with P3 and P4 people make the mistake to come off injections and falling back into bad habits.... where these two stages are the most important part of the protocol...
    Here you gradually introduce starches and sugar and still monitor your movement - still 2 lbs up and 2 lbs down....

    We all have different weak spots and lifestyles soteh idea is to use P4 to great your fever after.... Weekdays are always good for me... but weekend are when I am more sociable and the bad stuff happens here.... so I need to work out a plan that can work for my lifestyle

    I think maybe your doctor says 8 weeks because she knows the nature of humans... that the moment she says you can now introduce startches you may just go overboard.... these two phases makes so much sense... My thoughts are... what does the doc have planned for you after these 8 weeks? just letting you loose without specific structure and guidance?

    A few things to consider...
    and of course the 3 plus 3 weeks is between round 1 and 2
    Between rounds 2 and 3 this period extends t 4 plus 4 weeks....
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    Sept '20 - Wk 1= -4.2/9.24 | wk 2= -1.3/2.86 | Wk 3= -1.4/3.08 | Wk 4= -1.3/2.86 | Wk 5= -1/2.2 | Week 6= -.8/.44 | Total loss 10kg/ 22lbs - LIW 178.4
    P3 end week 1 - Up 2.43 from LIW (Steak day16 Nov) | P3 end week 2 - on LIW great feeling

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsstrong View Post
    Well, Simeons says 3 so I would use Swerve after 3 weeks .
    I do not know Swerve... what is it?
    ~AKA Yvonne SA~
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    Sept '20 - Wk 1= -4.2/9.24 | wk 2= -1.3/2.86 | Wk 3= -1.4/3.08 | Wk 4= -1.3/2.86 | Wk 5= -1/2.2 | Week 6= -.8/.44 | Total loss 10kg/ 22lbs - LIW 178.4
    P3 end week 1 - Up 2.43 from LIW (Steak day16 Nov) | P3 end week 2 - on LIW great feeling

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlirtyFlo View Post
    I do not know Swerve... what is it?
    Guessing swerve is erythitol and stevia
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    Quote Originally Posted by roselanoue View Post
    Guessing swerve is erythritol and stevia
    Thanks Rose... I don't like the ...***tols... usually, alcohol sugars that gives me the runs... but will check it out at my local drug store.... need something to bake with...
    ~AKA Yvonne SA~
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    Sept '20 - Wk 1= -4.2/9.24 | wk 2= -1.3/2.86 | Wk 3= -1.4/3.08 | Wk 4= -1.3/2.86 | Wk 5= -1/2.2 | Week 6= -.8/.44 | Total loss 10kg/ 22lbs - LIW 178.4
    P3 end week 1 - Up 2.43 from LIW (Steak day16 Nov) | P3 end week 2 - on LIW great feeling

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlirtyFlo View Post
    I see her point but I also agree with Mrs Strong.. Dr Simmeons took years to perfect the protocol and it proves that it works...
    The importance of P3 is to "lock 'in" your last injection weight and you will know how stable you are.... If you split P3 into 3 sections...
    week 1 basically the same as P2 but increase calories... and venture to extra proteins and different veggies and introducing fats....
    Week 2 to be a bit more adventurous and increasing calories further
    Week 3 is if you are stable introduce a bit more and maybe the odd glass of wine etc....
    So Dr Simmeons says.... at this point you should be locked in...that being said... locked in will be if you maintained your weight withing the 2lbs up or down...

    Then at this point in time you start P4.... This is another 3 weeks... this is not your forever after... with P3 and P4 people make the mistake to come off injections and falling back into bad habits.... where these two stages are the most important part of the protocol...
    Here you gradually introduce starches and sugar and still monitor your movement - still 2 lbs up and 2 lbs down....

    We all have different weak spots and lifestyles soteh idea is to use P4 to great your fever after.... Weekdays are always good for me... but weekend are when I am more sociable and the bad stuff happens here.... so I need to work out a plan that can work for my lifestyle

    I think maybe your doctor says 8 weeks because she knows the nature of humans... that the moment she says you can now introduce startches you may just go overboard.... these two phases makes so much sense... My thoughts are... what does the doc have planned for you after these 8 weeks? just letting you loose without specific structure and guidance?

    A few things to consider...
    and of course the 3 plus 3 weeks is between round 1 and 2
    Between rounds 2 and 3 this period extends t 4 plus 4 weeks....
    I appreciate this, FlirtyFLo! Especially your week-by-week P3 description. That's much like what I've read recommended online as well, though I just finished reading Linda Prinster's HCG Weight Loss Cure and she doesn't break it down that way. It does seem crazy to me to just instantly increase calories to 1500 after coming off HCG. But my doc really wants me to stay away from calorie counting. I just want to make sure to properly stabilize in the healthiest way possible!

    Because my doc is part of a holistic medicine practice specifically geared for thyroid health, I suspect her intention is that I continue on a paleo protocol indefinitely. She prescribed this before I started HCG. And since I have a dairy intolerance anyway, I think the idea is to stay away from dairy, sugar, grains as a matter of lifestyle. If that's the case, then perhaps the longer I do it the better anyway. And I had been paleo long before I started this HCG round, so it's not like reinventing the wheel following HCG.

    But my plan is to very slowly try out some of my favorite starchy veg like squashes and potatoes in P4, though I may do it once or twice before the 8 weeks is up for my birthday on 11/24 and on T-gives 11/26. The doc's office suggested that's OK as long as I'm mindful of limiting fructose/fruit on those days.

    Though I am taking everything into account you wonderful veterans are providing me. Especially after reading Prinster's book, I'm taking to heart what you've said about green beans, which are OK'd by by doc but not on the original protocol. I'll be sticking to Simeon POP after the green beans I have in my fridge are gone. I have to quarantine until Wednesday, my next Imperfect Foods shipment isn't until Tuesday, and I'm low on fruits and veggies, y'all!!

    Oh, I've also been deliberately practicing intermittent fasting, which, honestly, Simeon protocol includes with the recommendation of no breakfast and eating just the two meals a day. But I think it's something I'll continue into P3 and P4. I feel like I'm really building good habits right now that I want to continue even as I increase calories and amounts and types of food.

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    You need to do what is good for you and works for your lifestyle
    I have been lactose intolerant since I was small and although i refrain as much as possible i have not cut it out

    In terms of no breakfast on P3 and P4 .... one if my biggest mistakes in life is that when I am not trying to loose weight I would skip breakfast and I believe that is what caused my metabolism to shut down... From now on when not to n HCG i
    will have a small breakfast like a fruit or yogurt or boiled egg... i know not being a big eater and i am a social eater so i
    seldom experience hunger... so i have to train my body into a new routine because even if i do not eat breakfast or lunch. I am still limited to how much i can eat in a sitting... as long as we support each others choices that good for me...

    I am going to try to still keep ta s on my calories because If I dont it will be harder to keep myself accountable and see where my sweet spot in term of calories is and until i am stable i need to do it... i am going to do p3 with as much diligence
    as P2.
    5 years aho i was at 147lbs and back for one reason only.... i did not stabilize... not hoinv down that road again
    ~AKA Yvonne SA~
    Greetings from Sunny South Africa!
    First round since 2015!
    Sept '20 - Wk 1= -4.2/9.24 | wk 2= -1.3/2.86 | Wk 3= -1.4/3.08 | Wk 4= -1.3/2.86 | Wk 5= -1/2.2 | Week 6= -.8/.44 | Total loss 10kg/ 22lbs - LIW 178.4
    P3 end week 1 - Up 2.43 from LIW (Steak day16 Nov) | P3 end week 2 - on LIW great feeling

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