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    Wonderful to learn about these supplement options for good sleep. I've been adding kava, too. I'm an early to bed lady, but wake up for the 1-4 am shuffle some nights. Lately, I'll wake up, step on a cat, pee and am able to go back to sleep. That is a successful night for me!


    I get my first Pfizer vaccine today. I'm excited but nervous about being around a large group of people. I picked the earliest time slot so hopefully the venue will be light in attendance.

    Pearly, my heart goes out to you and your family, including your fur family. That's a lot to deal with. I'll be saying prayers for your bright spirit.

    Day six on the water slide and this weight (175) is also a set point so I'm in double deep. There will be a spectacular fireworks display when this carnival closes. If only I could celebrate with funnel cake. Actually, funnel cake is disgusting so I'm good.

    And thanks for the fish tips! I poach mine in chicken broth as a rule so I'm looking forward to trying a new cooking method.

    Congrats on the NSV, Dubbles! Theres no better feeling!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tracy View Post
    Wonderful to learn about these supplement options for good sleep. I've been adding kava, too. I'm an early to bed lady, but wake up for the 1-4 am shuffle some nights. Lately, I'll wake up, step on a cat, pee and am able to go back to sleep. That is a successful night for me!


    I get my first Pfizer vaccine today. I'm excited but nervous about being around a large group of people. I picked the earliest time slot so hopefully the venue will be light in attendance.

    Pearly, my heart goes out to you and your family, including your fur family. That's a lot to deal with. I'll be saying prayers for your bright spirit.

    Day six on the water slide and this weight (175) is also a set point so I'm in double deep. There will be a spectacular fireworks display when this carnival closes. If only I could celebrate with funnel cake. Actually, funnel cake is disgusting so I'm good.

    And thanks for the fish tips! I poach mine in chicken broth as a rule so I'm looking forward to trying a new cooking method.

    Congrats on the NSV, Dubbles! Theres no better feeling!



    Good Saturday Morning all of you Lovely Ladies, and if any fellas are out there reading, good morning to you too! Hope everyone has a good weekend, and their weigh-ins this morning are not disappointing.

    Tracy, you may have already gotten your vaccine shot this morning, but if not--don't worry, I think very few have had issues with Pfizer vaccine, except for sore arm. DH and I both had slightly sore arm after 1st shot, but really, really sore arm after 2nd shot. I'll take that in order to get the protection from virus. And the set points in weight are such a *****! And they are real. You know, I've never tasted funnel cake? As many times as we have gone to State Fair, I never wanted a funnel cake.

    I actually have the problem of not only set points, but upticks in my rounds. Seems like if I have a good loss (after week 1), I'll have an uptick the day after. I was afraid of that when I saw 2 lb loss yesterday morning, and sure enough this morning showed uptick of .8. And there was no cheating, no off protocol thoI have been eating all my allowable foods this round. I have had the grissini sticks and apple and strawberries everyday. I've actually needed them more this short round than ever. We'll see what tomorrow brings, maybe it will go down, who knows--hcg is there, doing its thing, and seems if we are following protocol, not much control we have over when and how quickly it will work it's magic.

    Whine time--I miss Miss M! Anyone else miss her too? I miss her deep introspections, reflections on food and relationships with food. I wish I could articulate how she did--being aware,as she would encourage herself and by extension us, of food/scale relationships. That introspection was very helpful and I miss that. That being said, we can't rely on her or any others. This is a challenge we have to meet ourselves. Personally I know I am having difficulties, issues right now. I am not hungry. Thankfully, I have not had problems with dosing or hunger at all--that is amazing, how hcg aids to alleviate those issues. It's truthfully a gift, thankful to Dr. S for his research and Pounds and Inches and this forum with moderators like Leez and all of you who are so supportive. It helps so much. That being said, I am still worried because I think about food non-stop. I just don't believe it is normal. I count my dose days forward and backwards. I count the days till I get to 30-40 whatever I choose a round to be, and I count backwards how many days left till off hcg. Am I the only one that does this? Seems I am more obssessed with food than ever. I know I am supposed to eat to live, but I feel like I'm living to eat on p3. When the tv is on and I see commercials about Jersey Mike's subway sandwiches, or pizzas, I think: to my self : will I ever be able to eat those things again. Especially without getting out of control? My mental outlook is worrisome to me. I just need to chill and readjust my thinking, remind myself how much healthier I am, how much better I feel eating correctly. How with 38 lbs gone , my bad knee feels so much better--not perfect, but better. I need to think of it not so much as deprivation as a gift I am doing for myself. Not always easy to do this. It is supposed to be a new way of life-- it wasn't all that quick, actually. I started these new rounds in January- and here it is a little over 4 months, about 4 1/2 months later, and I am down 38 lbs, but that's average of not quite 10 lbs a month--with stablization periods. Maybe I am just missing being able to have 3 meals a day. I have never been able to do the Intermittent Fasting thing, waiting until noon to eat lunch. Even on hcg, i have my coffee in a.m. and the breadsticks then. Hoping my obsessions with food will ease once I can at least have breakfast in the morning. I just so badly want this to be a permanent loss and not have to go back to P2 over and over again. Just a little concerned this morning.

    Leez, I was going to make this a short round, ending when I have to go away for another weekend trip, and may have to go 2 weekends in a row, first 2 weekends of May. Because of my mental issues, I am thinking maybe I need to discipline myself to go back to P2 and complete a long round, for another 10-14 days. Definitely not to go over 40 days. Do you think that is a good idea? I haven't lost that much in this 3 week round, approx 10 lbs. I'm not really far from my goal, about 9 more lbs. I could lose more, for sure, but not sure how much I could stablize at lower weight. Maybe after a 3/4 months go back to lose another few lbs. Becasuse I'm a little food obssessed right now, I'm afraid of not stablizing. But then I wonder if I should do another PI since I did one during the first round. You think it would be ok?

    Sorry for my rambling and whining everyone--it is just one of those days! Have a good weekend y'all!

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    Tracy, do you feel you are sleeping better since taking the calcium d-glucarate? Im not sure what phase of life you’re in. I’m peri menopausal and I think my hormones are at the root of my sleep issues. I had that issue too of waking up 3-4, but not being able to go back to sleep. One of the things that can apparently cause this is excess estrogen. Your body naturally does an estrogen dump around 3 or 4 and If you have excess estrogen, your body may not be able to do this successfully. The calcium d-glucarate assists the body in getting rid of the excess estrogen. Just thought I’d share as I found this interesting. I hope you have a breakthrough loss soon and good luck with the vaccine.

    Dubbles, I think about food a lot too. You are not alone. I think doing a PI might be smart as I do think longer rounds are better for stabilization.
    I miss MissM too. I wonder what is going on with her and hope she is ok.

    My first day of P3 was a success. After all that delicious food yesterday, I woke up to a .2 gain, but since I lost 1.2 lbs in my transition days, I’m still under LDW by 1 lb. I’m still hoping to keep some of the transition days losses. Fingers crossed. My menu for P3 day 2:

    Breakfast
    Same as yesterday

    Lunch
    Shrimp salad made with homemade Mayo eaten on romaine leaves
    Left over bacon from breakfast
    Homemade coconut candy

    Snack
    Apple (if hungry)

    Dinner
    Pork roast
    Roasted green beans or Brussels sprouts (haven’t decided yet, I have both)
    Cole slaw made with homemade Mayo
    “Fake” cinnamon apples made with zucchini
    Cucumber salad (maybe)
    Homemade coconut candy for dessert

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    Quote Originally Posted by justgitterdone View Post
    Tracy, do you feel you are sleeping better since taking the calcium d-glucarate? Im not sure what phase of life you’re in. I’m peri menopausal and I think my hormones are at the root of my sleep issues. I had that issue too of waking up 3-4, but not being able to go back to sleep. One of the things that can apparently cause this is excess estrogen. Your body naturally does an estrogen dump around 3 or 4 and If you have excess estrogen, your body may not be able to do this successfully. The calcium d-glucarate assists the body in getting rid of the excess estrogen. Just thought I’d share as I found this interesting. I hope you have a breakthrough loss soon and good luck with the vaccine.

    Dubbles, I think about food a lot too. You are not alone. I think doing a PI might be smart as I do think longer rounds are better for stabilization.
    I miss MissM too. I wonder what is going on with her and hope she is ok.

    My first day of P3 was a success. After all that delicious food yesterday, I woke up to a .2 gain, but since I lost 1.2 lbs in my transition days, I’m still under LDW by 1 lb. I’m still hoping to keep some of the transition days losses. Fingers crossed. My menu for P3 day 2:

    Breakfast
    Same as yesterday

    Lunch
    Shrimp salad made with homemade Mayo eaten on romaine leaves
    Left over bacon from breakfast
    Homemade coconut candy

    Snack
    Apple (if hungry)

    Dinner
    Pork roast
    Roasted green beans or Brussels sprouts (haven’t decided yet, I have both)
    Cole slaw made with homemade Mayo
    “Fake” cinnamon apples made with zucchini
    Cucumber salad (maybe)
    Homemade coconut candy for dessert
    JGD, only a .2 gain after adding additional food on P3, that is a total great first day! Good for you. Your food sounds yummy. Do you mind sharing your coconut candy dessert? Thanks.

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    You Lovelies are wonderful. You all took the time to post kindness and support and I read every word. It helped immensely. I have never found a circle of friends here in CO, and while I had several groups of great and good friends back in ABQ, it has been 16 years since I moved away and the day to day contact is just not the same. Over the years, the Lovelies are the ones I have found comfort from and you all did it again. Thank you.

    My Mom passed away in her sleep yesterday morning. Everyone kept it from me, as I had a job interview at 1 pm and they wanted me to be able to go to it and not burst into tears half way through. It was a kindness, but who knows if I will get the job? I did fine on the interview, but it depends on what they want, and so far, I have had several interviews and no one has hired me lately. The right one will come along, but I was very touched by how my entire extended family - 60+ people - were keeping radio silence on Social media, etc. so I wouldn't know. My sister insisted I come to her house right after, making me think she wanted a recap of the interview, but it was so she could break the news in person.

    So, no trip cross country, no taking the wee doggie anywhere. My Mom just wanted a memorial time at our next family reunion, which was postponed to this year sometime after the pandemic canceled it last year.

    She was ready to go, and while it was sudden for us, it was also as painless and quiet as one can get, so I am glad she didn't suffer or have to be hooked up to machines, etc. We are Believers, and we know she is happily with my Dad, and her folks, etc.

    Okay.

    Onward.

    So, I did not start P2 yesterday, obviously, but I did go out with my sister's friends to a fancy restaurant. P2 and P3 make me very, very picky about what I eat. It was a New Orleans style restaurant, but because of the pandemic, they can't get lobster, crab, crawfish, scallops, etc. etc. So most of the dishes were uh...rice and shrimp or if not that, how about shrimp and rice? My jambalaya was a pile of spiced rice with four SMALL shrimp on top, and maybe two slices of andouille sausage cut up into 6-7 little pieces. No sauce. No crawfish. No clams or mussels, no chicken even. No tomatoes, no okra, although I didn't really miss the okra. LOL. Just a nice dry pile of dirty rice. SKIP. I also ordered a side of truffle fries. Apparently, truffle is tasteless, cuz they were absolutely just normal, regular fries. I had some: More than I shoulda, not as many as I coulda!

    I did have TWO Lemon Drop martinis. Any old timers who have been on this thread a long time, know how much I love those! THAT part was fun. The last time I had any alcohol was some Tuaca in eggnog at Christmas and the time before that was... some Tuaca in eggnog the Christmas before. So, I am not much of a drinker, but the martinis were sooooo good.

    They had a suite that five of the girls (okay, Mature Women over 50, but we when we get together, we are girls, right?) had a slumber party in. I went up to see the rooms and had a chocolate covered strawberry, but then went home before they broke out cake. I'm the big sister, and I didn't want to cramp their style as they drank more and started telling stories about their husbands. LOL. My sister is blessed with wonderful friends who wrapped us both in love and laughter.

    DOWN .8 today. (Yeah, I know, drop the mike.)

    Don't get too excited. I'm in P3, not P2, and alcohol often dehydrates enough to show a loss the day after and the damage shows up a day or two down the road. And I am down the .8 I was UP earlier in the week, so back to where I was.

    So, that's my story about how we may obsess about food in P2 and how we manage in P3 and perhaps beyond. It wasn't that I deprived myself. I had everydangthing I wanted. But ONLY what I wanted. I didn't waste time or calories or even carbs on stuff that was Not Up to My Standards. (I MAKE jambalaya. It is a Throw Whatever is in the Fridge kind of Stew, especially seafood. I shoulda had tuna salad!)

    Anyway, I'm rambling now. I need to get on to that newsletter work, and this is more fun! Ha.

    I am going to stay in P3 another week and then I will see where I am. I may cycle back into P2 and if I get good losses, only do it for 10 more days. I only really need to lose 5-6 more pounds to be happy. I don't want to do it if I am going to get 3rd week losses of bouncing on the same pound all week.

    Thank you again, all. You are truly LOVELY!

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    I'm so sorry you didn't get to be with your mom before the end, but what a blessing to go so peacefully. My grandmother was blessed to die while napping in the sunshine next to a pool at age 95. I want to be like her! It seems rarer now to pass over peacefully in your sleep and not die "of something". I hope we all beat the odds and are similarly fortunate when its time.

    It seems odd maybe, but I've found that the food discipline I've developed actually helps me weather traumatic and stressful times. Even when things are in a whirlwind, there are things I just won't eat. Maybe because its one of very few things I can control when things seem out of control and overwhelming. I saw a little of that in your post. Praying for your peace (and for your little doggie too.)
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    PearlyMae - my heart goes out to you and your family, and I pray that you're all surrounded by love and support. Take care of yourself. <3

    Rkthin - I get sciatic pain from piriformis syndrome which is slightly different then sciatica as the cause of the pain is the inflamed muscle pressing on the nerve, not the nerve itself. I find relief stretching out that muscle. I'll do a figure-four stretch, child's pose, and also roll on a lacrosse ball. Epsom salt bath is good too and I'll take ibuprofen. Again, this relieves the nerve by addressing the muscle so might not be appropriate if that's not what's causing your pain. And sorry you're dealing with this, it sucks!

    Dubbles - A change I have noticed in myself is that years ago when the only goal I had for my body was its appearance I would think a lot more about what I could/couldn't eat . As I started training that turned into being primarily interested in what my body could do, and what I could eat became a secondary concern. Recently, during this pandemic, I have found myself focusing on the strangest things that are within my control because heaven knows the larger situation is so out of my control Ė I wonder if that might be where some of your current focus is coming from too? In many ways things are better than they were a year ago, but we're still far from normal and we need to show ourselves some grace with that.

    I took my 40th dose at 6am this morning so I'll be starting P3 at 6am on Tuesday (someone please tell me if my math's off!). I've lost 25.3 pounds so far and am 3.7 pounds above goal weight, so feeling pretty good. I'm a little nervous about the next two days Ė my last two rounds were 23 days (and in 2010 and 2014) and I ended up doing my no dose VLCD days while working at conferences where it's very easy to keep going on nothing but black coffee and not notice that you're not eating.

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    PearlyMae, My thoughts are with you after loss of your mother. She did seem to go peacefully and that is a blessing. I was with both parents when they passed and one had a battle with lung cancer and it really wasn't as peaceful as I would hope. At 95 she obviously had a long life, and for that you can be grateful--when I think about getting old , I remind myself not everyone is so blessed. Sounds like you have quite an extended family, so that is good. Remember those days where we would put loved ones in funeral homes for 3/4 days. Those were brutal. I am so glad generally no longer the case. That's definitely not what I want for myself, anyway!

    Hope the interview has outcome you would like. Take care of that fur baby. We are all here to support however you need. Sorry that meal was not exciting. I was talking to someone just yesterday about how since pandemic restaurants have these limited menus, and it can be disappointing when you go out and can't get what you'd like. My dinner out last week was not that way, so I enjoyed it, immensely. Hope the rest of your weekend goes ok. Virtual hugs.



    Karbee I am feeling much better this afternoon than I was when I first got up this morning. I DO miss breakfast, but that is only for a short time. I hated the way I looked with extra weight, but I really did feel I needed to lose for my joints, and it has made a tremendous difference --for that I am grateful. It's all good. I was surprised that during my last transition off hcg I didn't experience hunger either day--I know it is 72 hours, but if you do early in a.m., you really just go without for the 2 days, and then you can have a yummy cup of coffee on that 3rd day. I would think with only being 3.7 above goal weight, this is going to be your last round for a long time? Did you find stablization any more difficult doing the 23 day round in 2014? I'm struggling with decision on whether or not to do PI this coming weekend or just complete p2 for a 40 day round, then p3 and p4.

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    Glad to hear it Dubbles! Funnily, my first round of HCG was less to lose weight and more to facilitate an elimination diet to figure out the joint issues I was having, and it worked! I figured out the gluten and I aren't friends and haven't had joint pain since Ė and prior to that I'd been diagnosed with arthritis and trochanteric bursistis, and told just to live with it. This protocol is a blessing. I am expecting that this will be my last round for some time. I stabilized without issue after both prior rounds, and think my gains over the last year were a result of the suddenly sedentary nature of pandemic life, stress (both from the pandemic and some big changes at work), and consuming empty comfort calories in response to both. I'm glad I had the opportunity and lack of social demands to do a 40 day round this time. Definitely looking forward to seeing people again, but I find it a lot harder to stay on P2 when having meals with others.

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    Pearly, sending you some love from the East Coast! I hope your family celebrates your beautiful mother's life. And she gave us you! We are grateful for you!

    JGD, that's really helpful info about estrogen and makes sense. The calcium supplement, almost four weeks in, is making a difference, I think. I'm 58, was peri for years and got an iud 5 years ago which early on made a difference but now seeing some symptoms resurfacing. occasional night sweats and the sleeping issues. Time to get a new one. Too bad it's not for the hanky panky!
    What I appreciate with the supplement is that I can go back to sleep. That's a game changer for me.
    And my happier disposition!

    Dubbles, I obsess about the days on P2 and when I finish, too. I try to plan a round unfettered with big important social events and my calendar is clear until late May, so I'll chip away at this until at least 33 dose days. I'm 15 doses in and comfortable. I start getting my foodie on when I'm closing in on P3. It's so much easier to have a stocked fridge to make the transition.
    I also regularly see a slight gain after a nice drop.

    I miss MissM too!

    Welp, the water slide is closed. Finally dropped a pound this am, another half inch off my waist. Pleasantly surprised because I ate beef yesterday. The grocery had a small filet mignon for sale yesterday with a "hurry this home and cook it" sticker on it. That and asparagus cooked in the beef juices. Applesauce to finish the meal. It felt decadent.

    Anyone else having trouble finding grissini or melba other than this girl? I've been nibbling a water cracker or two twice a day instead. I'm trying not to order items from Amazon because well, Jeff Bezos. Or any big box store. Not a fan.

    Wishing a lovely Sunday to all you lovely ladies and Jeff :-)
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    Tracy, so glad to hear I'm not the only one who thinks about food a lot--on P2. Woohoo on the Lb. drop this morning, and after a beef meal. I haven't had beef once this round, and I truly love it. Your meal of filet mignon, asparagus, and applesauce does sound decadent, and like a full meal! Good for you! Tracy, I have looked at Kroger, Meiers, Walmart--have not checked Aldi's, but like you, no success on finding the Grissini sticks. Except for Amazon. I hate supporting Amazon too, because they have gotten obscenely rich during the pandemic, and our poor brick and mortar establishments fall by the wayside. But it is so convenient.


    Hope everyone is doing ok this morning. AFM: down 1.4 this morning--prob will get a little of that back in the a.m.--just works that way. But I'll take it this morning, certainly contributes to a good mood! So for this 3rd week, week of big restaurant cheat, losses have been 2.2 lbs. down. If not for gain of 2.2 on Tuesday a.m., maybe it would have been much more successful week--who knows now. Tomorrow will be last dose day for this portion of round. Then another 72 hrs of transistion. We'll see how that goes, but tomorrow will be last dose weight--that magic number to maintain over either Planned Interruption, or for P3 purposes.

    Pearly, you doing ok? Still thinking of you and your fur baby too.

    Have a great Sunday everyone. DH plays in a golf league every Sunday, so I get on my computer a bit on Sundays, will check to see later if anyone posted their weekend.

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    Pearly, so sorry about your mom. I know you will miss her and your daily chats immensely. May you Find comfort that she was blessed to have passed peacefully in her sleep and that she is in a better place now. She will never have hurt or suffer again. Sounds like you had a nice time with your sister and her friends. I do enjoy a good lemon drop martini as well.

    Karbee, I enjoy a good roll around on a lacrosse ball as well lol. That and a good foam roller are what I use when my lower back gets stiff. I do a lot of glute and hamstring exercises which can really make the lower back stiff. Iím usually good to go after a good roller session. I do believe your math is correct for P3 start. I am on P3 day 3 so you are not far behind. Donít worry about the transition days, you will have enough hcg still in your system so hunger wonít be too bad. If it gets bad, drink that extra cup of coffee!

    Tracy, congrats on the water slide closing down! I typically lose better on days I eat beef than those I donít.

    Dubbles, recipe for coconut candy: https://alldayidreamaboutfood.com/be...b-gluten-free/


    Today I was up another .2 on the scale, so slowly eating away at the transition day losses, but .8 under LDW so Iím happy. Todayís menu:

    Breakfast
    Same as past 2 days

    Lunch
    Left over pork roast & Cole slaw
    Homemade coconut candy

    Snack
    Apple

    Dinner
    Egg roll in a bowl
    Homemade coconut candy

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