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    Rose and PearlyMae, I go by a chart from Virta.com which shows I need to get 77 grams of protein; based on age, gender, weight, and height. That means at least 308 cals of protein. Since even the leanest meats and fish always have some fat, I have trouble staying under 500 cals. But I take your point, Rose: staying as low as possible is the best strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manydaystillfri View Post
    P3 is the worst.

    Up another pound and treacherously close to a steak day. Like WTH??? I'm gonna eat only fats today no carbs at all!
    It may be something you are eating, even if you think you don't have any sensitivities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poweredbystarbucks View Post
    Thank you for explaining. I wasnít sure if it had anything to do with the calories burned and settling on at 1200 vs 1600 (cal burned from exercise). This is good to know.


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    You do burn more calories and you may be more hungry so exercising can make you fluctuate more, but then you need to take your weight over a few days and take the average. Muscle soreness can also lead to higher weight because the inflammation is water retention as the muscles grow/heal. It really becomes about trusting the process and your body, experiment, and not give up. When I am confused I go back to strict P3 eating and things even out.
    I also don't count calories and I make sure I drink electrolytes so that my hunger is not actually thirst (I have found that to be a thing for me!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by gz9gjg View Post
    I'm with you, 2Many and Jeannette: I keep using my regular soap, face, and body stuff. Mind you, I did give all up in my first, most successful round; but I kept losing in subsequent rounds, too.

    P2d20: 506 cals yesterday; hot bath in the afternoon. Weighed in this morning, now 6# down from start weight to 143#, yay! Goal is to get under 140# this round. So I finally got my whoosh!
    Yay, gz!! Such a good feeling!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PearlyMae View Post
    Is it the season? I'm sooooo hungry lately. We have only had autumn weather for two days, was still in the 90's until then, so maybe not. I think, though, that I also am not eating enough! My old nemisis.

    I creep up when not eating enough, too. Up .2 up .2 up .2. This has been going on for a couple of weeks. Just as I get pretty darned close to my LIW, I'll have a good drop and start over.

    On top of that, on Saturday, and I KNOW BETTER, I ate a late breakfast around 10 a.m. and then had to run out at 2 and did not get back until after 7 p.m. And I didn't eat before I left because I wasn't hungry and didn't take anything with me and by the time I got back, and again, I KNOW BETTER, I was not only starved to death, I was hugely into hypoglycemia.

    I had trouble feeding the dogs and making myself dinner because I kept DROPPING THINGS. My hands were shaking, my back ached, and I was close to tears because I felt so hungry. I KNOW BETTER.

    It has been a roller coaster since then, hungry all the time, eating like someone is going to take it away from me (my Dad used to say "Put your foot on it and growl" like a dog) and but not being able to eat much at a time, but being hungry an hour later.

    Dang.

    I did drop back a pound today, but that is still closer to LIW than I like. I am going to really really watch what I eat for a few days. Maybe make my meal several small courses.

    Penny not well. I am trying to see if I can get her to Iowa State vet college for surgery. They do the stent surgery that is not done anywhere around here. IDK. She is just droopy and sort of resentful because she doesn't feel well and all I do for her is give her nasty tasting medicine. She is mostly not eating much. Then she will surprise me and eat a full bowl of food. I never know. The surgery is about the same cost as a cruise for a family of four, but I wasn't going on cruise anyway. I was going to go to my 50th class reunion for my high school, but I can't afford two trips so will probably cancel that.

    Onward. Dang.
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    I am so sorry to hear Penny is not doing well. So hard!

    I am finding that I need a snack around 4 and I need to bring food with me when I am gone too long or I get the same. The one thing I loved about keto is that I never ever got this. Could go hours. I need to put some snacks in the car!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsstrong View Post
    You do burn more calories and you may be more hungry so exercising can make you fluctuate more, but then you need to take your weight over a few days and take the average. Muscle soreness can also lead to higher weight because the inflammation is water retention as the muscles grow/heal. It really becomes about trusting the process and your body, experiment, and not give up. When I am confused I go back to strict P3 eating and things even out.
    I also don't count calories and I make sure I drink electrolytes so that my hunger is not actually thirst (I have found that to be a thing for me!).
    Iím taking it easy for now and am not overdoing it. I will hop on the bike this weekend. Pilates is more my speed during this time. You turned me on to the perfect aminos and I donít know if I really noticed anything but only took one serving as I read not to do more If you take an anti-depressant.

    I was down 4.8 lbs today Lovely Losers 2021- SENSATIONAL in September!!Lovely Losers 2021- SENSATIONAL in September!! I knew a lot of it was just bloat and think this is more of a real starting point for me.

    I love spicy too and used to use Frankís hot sauce. I have also been okay with salsa though I know itís technically mixing vegetables.

    Only day 2 of VLCD so Iíve got a long ways to go.

    Pearly, I am sorry that Penny isnít doing well. Hopefully they can do that surgery.


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    ASF, I am holding steady still but my weight is definitely up when eating plantain chips. It hovers around the +2# mark or slightly over. When I don't eat them I stay around 150. 151.6 the last two days of eating them. I did the experiment twice now with the same result. So I can either allow myself some every so many days or forget about them altogether. I may try corn chips instead and see. I am not sure if this is a sensitivity or simply that added carbs means more water retention since it is the only thing right now that kicks me into carb-burning mode. Without them I am very low carb or even keto, the highest carbs being yogurt, strawberries, and tomatoes. Mmmm. Maybe instead of focusing on the plantain chips, I need to eat more carbs and see where I stabilize. Mmmmm.

    Other than this, well my lady parts have been a problem.
    OK TMI so gents, you are done reading.

    First, the never-ending UTI that is finally gone (10 days of no returning symptoms at all finally, so I think it is safe to say), then a yeast infection (gone for a week so also safe to say I think), and now I have what I think is a cyst on one of my outer labia. It's big and painful, swollen, red. The thing is I don't shave down there and these are typically caused by an ingrown hair. I am not sure what to do and am hoping it will go away on its own, but wtf?? I am 53 and the last time I had any of these things was in my teens and early 20's. My life and sexual habits have not changed much in the last decade or more so it is unrelated to that. Anyway, for now, I am icing the part and will start taking baths to see if that softens the skin and opens it up. I don't see anything though as far as a hair. My midwife will be happy to cut it and lance it and what not but I am so not ready for that! LOL It is interesting to note that I was at 160 when I had my hip surgeries and I wonder if part of this all is not a form of detoxing those chemicals that were stored in fat. I have no idea but always find these things interesting. And since things come in threes hopefully I am now done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsstrong View Post
    ASF, I am holding steady still but my weight is definitely up when eating plantain chips. It hovers around the +2# mark or slightly over. When I don't eat them I stay around 150. 151.6 the last two days of eating them. I did the experiment twice now with the same result. So I can either allow myself some every so many days or forget about them altogether. I may try corn chips instead and see. I am not sure if this is a sensitivity or simply that added carbs means more water retention since it is the only thing right now that kicks me into carb-burning mode. Without them I am very low carb or even keto, the highest carbs being yogurt, strawberries, and tomatoes. Mmmm. Maybe instead of focusing on the plantain chips, I need to eat more carbs and see where I stabilize. Mmmmm.

    Other than this, well my lady parts have been a problem.
    OK TMI so gents, you are done reading.

    First, the never-ending UTI that is finally gone (10 days of no returning symptoms at all finally, so I think it is safe to say), then a yeast infection (gone for a week so also safe to say I think), and now I have what I think is a cyst on one of my outer labia. It's big and painful, swollen, red. The thing is I don't shave down there and these are typically caused by an ingrown hair. I am not sure what to do and am hoping it will go away on its own, but wtf?? I am 53 and the last time I had any of these things was in my teens and early 20's. My life and sexual habits have not changed much in the last decade or more so it is unrelated to that. Anyway, for now, I am icing the part and will start taking baths to see if that softens the skin and opens it up. I don't see anything though as far as a hair. My midwife will be happy to cut it and lance it and what not but I am so not ready for that! LOL It is interesting to note that I was at 160 when I had my hip surgeries and I wonder if part of this all is not a form of detoxing those chemicals that were stored in fat. I have no idea but always find these things interesting. And since things come in threes hopefully I am now done.
    Could just be bacteria. If I work out I always shower and change due to the sweat factor. Could be detox related too. Ouch!! I sometimes get breakthrough bleeding in HCG but I take my pill continuously so I donít get my period. I am scared if menopause too!! lol.

    I sometimes think that HCG messed me up forever when it comes to carbs but I think itís more of my mindset and lack of control once I start eating them. Sucks!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by poweredbystarbucks View Post
    Could just be bacteria. If I work out I always shower and change due to the sweat factor. Could be detox related too. Ouch!! I sometimes get breakthrough bleeding in HCG but I take my pill continuously so I don’t get my period. I am scared if menopause too!! lol.

    I sometimes think that HCG messed me up forever when it comes to carbs but I think it’s more of my mindset and lack of control once I start eating them. Sucks!!!


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    Oh, that makes sense! Not sure why it would all of a sudden be bothering me/why my immune system is down. Will give it a boost!

    For me, it was about learning a new relationship. It was only after these last 3 rounds that it clicked. Before that I preferred staying keto because I just couldn't handle carbs at all, whether it was mental or physical or both.
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    Hello!! Been abundantly busy with coaching, taking classes, organizing speakers, working...so many things. So....I skipped a bunch of posts. Was reading diligently and noticed I was only on the 16th...

    Mrsstrong- That sounds so painful and I'm so sorry you're going through this. Here, finally is one of the things my daughter has used successfully: Lauricidinģ- The Original Monolaurin Supplement. It's so interesting, she has problems with one of her hips as well. I'm beginning to think all of this is connected

    PearlyMae - How's Penny? It's so hard when they get older. Ha, guess that's the case for many people too.

    Now in P4 and wasn't really interested in moving out of P3. Tried some quinoa today and it just didn't sit right in my mouth??? Weird. Had some popcorn a couple of nights ago and went up 3 lbs. Next day went down 3 lbs. Of course, I fricking love popcorn and apparently, at least for now it's not in the cards for me. Other than that, I've been pretty steady, no steak or any other kinds of days, just eating what I want. Still want to release another 5 lbs and that will happen when I get more serious about exercising. Good to be back and I probably will be in and out less frequently as my schedule is packed.
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    So sorry to hear about Penny, sending healing vibes!

    When I get that hungry / skaky, I make a cup of salty bouillon. For me, that takes the edge off hunger and stops the shakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poweredbystarbucks View Post
    Day 1 VLCD. Giddy up!! I felt so sick last night from loading and said ďI never want to feel Kole this againĒ. Hope I remember that. I am so excited to feel better and watch the scale drop. Feeling in control is a beautiful feeling.

    Strong convinced me that exercise isnít gonna mess with my reset so thatís good because exercise is my sanity. Recovering alcoholic and I have to get the anxiety out somehow.

    I am also doing the lipo injections and donít know if they help or not. I figured why not. It was a bundle deal.

    Iím already in a beautiful mood which happens on hcg. Loads of energy. Iíll ride this wave. Gonna make some chicken for lunch but Iím not hungry at all. Still full from the load.

    Have a fabulous day and Iíll check in later.


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    Your experience sounds similar to mine. I'm always feeling horrible after the second loading day, but glad its over, feeling great VLCD1 and NEVER HUNGRY.

    You're off to a great start - keep it up!
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