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    samslice, if you have enzymes remaining from your first bottle take those. Rice bran as a supplement ingredient is not going to cause any issue for you in P3. Do hold off on the new ones until you figure out the coconut oil thing. If you are sensitive, even a tiny bit can cause a problem. I have a corn sensitivity, and didn't realize that a new med prescribed had cornstarch in the pressed tablet. I didn't have a reaction right away, but eventually I had abscesses and rashes appear because of the accumulation of the irritant to my system. And I mean we are talking a TINY tablet. It matters.

    pearly, I hear you on loving being rock solid. Its the best, isn't it? I find that for me, moving into colder weather definitely changes the way I eat. I do NOT want salads or really anything cold when the season changes. This is the time when I usually see some weight creep. So far this year only a pound or two, but still something. This year I'm trying to keep control by loading up on soups with veggies. I find I can thicken the broths with blended veggies like cauliflower, yellow squash and cabbage without making the soup look weirdly green. That gets a few more veggies in. Always a struggle.
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    Thanks for the reply. Just checked the bottle with rice bran - it also contains "~.6%" mct, then a big disclaimer, Contains Tree Nuts - Coconut!!! (exclamatons mine lol).

    I have a probiotic that lists chicory root and sunfiber, any idea if those are a no-go?

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    OK, not a good choice then if you are avoiding testing coconut products right now.

    Had to look up sunfiber...thats a new one to me. Apparently it is a soluble fiber made from guar gum (guar is a bean).

    Chicory root can cause gas in some people. But its unlikely the small amount in the probiotic would be a problem, and its fine for P3.

    You should be fine with that one.
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    Thank you, both!
    Leez, soup! duh! I used to make great soups for lunches when I took hem to work and ate at my desk. Now I am working at home and just did not think of it! So will do that this weekend. I can freeze in individual servings.

    A have a freezer full of chicken to be cooked. I just need to do some assembly line baking and get it COOKED and frozen, so I can pull it out and then I get interested in making veggies to go along with it. But the hot soup will def. get me further, so thank you for the reminder. Riced cauliflower thickens broth so it is closer to a stew, btw! P
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    Anyone have suggestions for getting more fat in?

    I'm currently off dairy + nuts + eggs + all coconut products. sad face.

    I've been getting all of my fat from -
    - beef, chicken, salmon, pork
    - oil (avocado, olive, canola, sesame (oh no - I shouldn't be eating seeds, right?))
    - avocados
    - hemp hearts, chia
    - olives

    Just looking for any alternatives that I might be forgetting. While this certainly beats p2 foods, I'm getting a little bored with the limited menu, also I don't want to overdo it on any of the foods I can eat.

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    Peanut butter. Many people do fine with it in P3. Peanuts are not nuts, but legumes. Weve been warned against it a lot, but the protocol does not prohibit them.

    Here's my thinking and cautions on it. See if it makes sense to you.

    https://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforum...ains-p3-21472/

    Your oils are fine. With the possible exception of canola...mainly because its a poor quality oil that, like other vegetable oils, is inflammatory. But it depends on how purist you want to get about things.

    The more I learn about nutrition and metabolism, the clearer it has become that the real enemy we fight is inflammation. Its the root of pretty much all problems and diseases. Reduce inflammation and the body can come back into balance. That is why it is so critical to replace sugar. Its not just about insulin balance. Sugar is a major inflammatory source.
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    Does anyone use cacao butter? I wonder if I could do cocoa crack with that 🤔

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    Oh wow, you have THE BEST answers today!! (I always appreciate you, but "eat as though you didn't take that injection" and "try peanut butter" are my all time favorites haha)

    I will try peanut butter, I've been craving it so bad.

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    Cocoa butter is a great idea. Give it a try.
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    I read your peanut explanation and that does make sense, no starch should = no problem. And after 5 seconds of research, I finally learned that cashews aren't legumes, either. But still too carby for p3 probably.

    Bummer about the canola - I avoided it for years because I read that it was...fake, or highly processed, I don't really remember why. I just read it as "Canada Oil" all these years, because there wasn't any actual food to name it after. Of course I just bought a huge bottle because it was on sale and I read about fifty mayo recipes suggesting canola. I just assumed it was healthier than vegetable oil if so many people seemed to be using it. I should have just stuck w/ avocado.

    I couldn't believe how much food had hidden sugar in it after my doing first round in 2011 - rotisserie chicken blew my mind. I just got back from my least favorite grocery store while on my pb mission, and looked through every different brand and package of bacon and hot dogs. They all had sugar, every single one. But I am fine with slicing my own pork belly, and waiting for the sugar free brands to go on sale. I thought about it on my way home, though, and I felt so bad for all of the people shopping there that don't know why they can't lose weight
    Europeans make fun of our bread for being as sweet as cake. Yikes. Our sugar and corn subsidies are criminal.

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    Supposedly the name canola was constructed from the words, Canadian Oil Low Acid. Its actually rapeseed oil, but you can understand why they wanted to change the name for the food version. Also about 90% of canola oil is genetically modified thanks to Monsanto, and the other 10% is suspect because of cross pollination issues.

    I thought this was a good summary:
    The problem with canola oil is that it is extremely high in omega-6 polyunsaturated fats (PUFA). A diet high in these omega-6 fats will cause systemic inflammation in the body, which is an underlying commonality with all modern chronic diseases, including heart disease and diabetes," she says. The key is to consume more omega-3 fatty acids than omega-6 fatty acids, so consuming too much canola oil can actually work against you, in terms of heart health. (Isabel Smith, Registered Dietician)

    Some omega 6 oil is ok in the diet, but there needs to be less of it than omega 3's. That balance that is hard to get when you use a lot of vegetable oils.

    I've seen some information where a high omega3 canola plant is being developed. I don't think its come to the market yet.
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    Now I remember!! Great marketing strategy I guess, I haven't mentally related rapeseed and canola for a long time, apparently.
    Ugh I forgot about monsanto, with...everything else going on lately. That was nice while it lasted haha.

    I hadn't realized avocado oil was high in omega 6 as well. And since I can't do butter or coconut right now, I guess I should start taking fish oil again.
    And more flax, and hey, my best friend hemp hearts is on that list, and tuna and spinach, oh my...I have some reading to do.

    So much great information, thank you Leez!

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