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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsondance View Post
    hi riley- i'd love your chicken jerky recipe. i bought some at the farmer's market but it still had a bit of sugar in it. and the beef seems to be a bit hard for me to chew.

    i'm really hoping that my new "plan" will help me stay up during the day, and sleep better at night. if i can get up at a regular time in the morning, i think i'll have better luck having breakfast. but i'm going back on P2 so i'll have time to see if my sleep will improve.
    About that sleeping thing! I have always been a night owl.. See! I'm up now! I started my 'career' 15 years ago. before that, I was in college and bar-tending late late at night. Then Bush got elected 5 years into my dream job and all funding for science was no more.. So I was part time (grant work) until Obama came and believed in science instead of fairy tails. In the mean time I bar-tended until 6 am 6 days a week and still managed to pull off 30 hrs at my 'real job' -I was a wreck. Eating crap, up all night, sleeping all day..No good. Once I got back to full time and quit the night life, I had to retrain my self to go to bed early and get up even earlier. It is still not easy but Benydryl usually does the trick. And it is the only drug that is non habit forming! I only take it on school nights =) Tomorrow I'll get up when I am ready!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsondance View Post
    3 lg eggs have 18 gm of protein, the bacon has 6 gms, the hamburger has 15 gm- so your total is 39 gm.
    Oops, i was looking at my breakfast totals for the day I counted my cream, I usually don't count the calories for that. And Livestrong has my hamburger down as 24g of protein. Hmmm, but if you insist that I need to eat more I will do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by virgiTHEgr8 View Post
    Hello Lepters,

    I am reading on the Leptin diet and have followed it for the past 3 days and wow, my weight seems to have stabelized and I am not gaining anymore. In fact I am down a pound this morning. I'm excited. I am done with P4 and am in lifetime and want to keep losing. I had labwork done this morning and didn't get to eat my breakfast until 10 am, then I went to work and didn't get to eat dinner until 6 pm. Amazingly I was not hungry all day. I admit I did overdo in the eating at dinner time, so lets see if my weight stays the same.

    What is it about whey protein shakes and why can't we have one. I thought it was ok so it will increase my protein.

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    Hi Virgi....

    Dr K says that whey spikes the insulin for most people that is why he doesnt like it so much... he says that if whey does not bother you, then go ahead. Apparently once you get to LS (leptin sensitivity) then you can... and he mentions that he uses it on busy days. Somewhere in his writings he tells how we can test ourselves for that using a Blood Glucose meter... I have not been able to find it again though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsondance View Post
    mini- the unrefined CO will have a strong smell. the refined CO doesn't smell at all.
    Gotta try some of that or is refined a swear word in anything, including coconut oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Thanks for the great info, maile! I wonder if that is why Fage is so addicting to some people...
    I can speak for myself on this subject! I adore it because it's so rich and creamy and the full fat has the mouth consistency of eating something decadent like cheesecake, especially if you add Stevia and some berries. But since I'm still trying to lose more weight, I've stopped eating it..for now.


    Has anyone tried to make their own beef or chicken jerky using an oven instead of a dehydrator? (I don't have one and really don't need yet another appliance in the house!) Do share your details if you have, I'd like to make my own so I have stuff I can carry when I can't get a decent meal. I'm away from home a lot and it's SO HARD to eat well around in a rural area that's based on fried stuff and carbs.

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    Mini.. here is a couple Youtubes on making jerky in an oven and dehydrator... If using an oven just put it right on the racks and cook for a low temp (150-170) for about eight hours.

    http://youtu.be/1D6KWglNNEo

    http://youtu.be/nUayR2hcf-g

    http://youtu.be/TkjhrwV7qPU
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Mini.. here is a couple Youtubes on making jerky in an oven and dehydrator... If using an oven just put it right on the racks and cook for a low temp (150-170) for about eight hours.

    http://youtu.be/1D6KWglNNEo

    http://youtu.be/nUayR2hcf-g

    http://youtu.be/TkjhrwV7qPU
    hmm...the dehydrator definitely looks easier. Thanks for the links!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsondance View Post
    the bigger problem for me is the 50 gms of protein. his new blog bugs me, actually. i hate it when people use words like "always" and "never"- no one is going to convince me that this is the ONLY way to get healthy!

    he says that if you cheat it will set you back 10-14 days. given the strictness of his rules, can anyone say that they've done a few weeks without cheating?

    colleen- did you notice that you are not allowed to have cream in your coffee, if it's between meals? i think he's getting a bit extreme...
    Margie -- He's only talking about the 6-8 reset period and I don't think it's any stricter than Simeon's protocol. Many people ARE able to do that protocol for 6-8 weeks w/out cheating so I think it can be done on Dr. K's protocol as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slenderella View Post
    Margie -- He's only talking about the 6-8 reset period and I don't think it's any stricter than Simeon's protocol. Many people ARE able to do that protocol for 6-8 weeks w/out cheating so I think it can be done on Dr. K's protocol as well.
    he hints that many people need longer than that- and i think most people in P2 do some kind of cheat at some point- it might be a small one, but it's still there- or people even interpret the protocol differently, or are given different instructions from their clinic, yet they still lose. plus if you don't want to eat something, you don't have to.

    but with this, he's saying that if there is even one morning that you don't eat 50 gm of protein, that it screws you up for 10-14 days. that seems incredibly extreme, to me. i can see maybe a couple of days, but 2 weeks? what if you're sick? you don't feel well, you don't eat breakfast, and that wipes out 2 weeks worth of work? and a bigger question, what does he have to support that? i'd also like to hear him talk more about how this has actually worked for people. as far as i know, he's only been online for a short time. how many people have experienced becoming LS, and have gotten "lean" due to that??
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsondance View Post
    he hints that many people need longer than that- and i think most people in P2 do some kind of cheat at some point- it might be a small one, but it's still there- or people even interpret the protocol differently, or are given different instructions from their clinic, yet they still lose. plus if you don't want to eat something, you don't have to.

    but with this, he's saying that if there is even one morning that you don't eat 50 gm of protein, that it screws you up for 10-14 days. that seems incredibly extreme, to me. i can see maybe a couple of days, but 2 weeks? what if you're sick? you don't feel well, you don't eat breakfast, and that wipes out 2 weeks worth of work? and a bigger question, what does he have to support that? i'd also like to hear him talk more about how this has actually worked for people. as far as i know, he's only been online for a short time. how many people have experienced becoming LS, and have gotten "lean" due to that??
    Margie... I have the book, 'Mastering Leptin' by Byron Richards... his timing is very similar and not as strict. He does have cites for the things in there. I haven ever read how long he says it will take to gain Leptin Sensitivity... Here is his rules... they seem reasonable:

    1 - Don't eat after dinner. Finish dinner at least 3 hours before going to bed. Allow 11-12 hours between dinner and breakfast.
    2 - Eat 3 meals a day. Allow 5-6 hours between meals. NO SNACKING!
    3 - Do not eat large meals. Women 400-600 cal per meal, Men 500-700 cal per meal. If over weight, stop eating before completely full (in other words, keep it to the lower calorie end of the spectrum)
    4 - Eat a breakfast containing protein
    5 - Reduce the amount of carbs you eat (visual: your plate should be half protein and half healthy carbs)

    Note: on Marks Daily Apple forum, there are people eating Primal and losing weight, by using Dr K's timing and suggestions.
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    In the reading I have done in Mastering Leptin, every time you put something in your mouth with calories, you change the timing of hormonal cycles. Eating 2 or 3 times a day, the right foods, will optimize those cycles for sleep, fat burning, energy, etc. If you have cream in your coffee between meals, you disrupt the cycles. Everything stops for digestion. Insulin releases and even in small amounts, it causes disruptions so when you are ready to go to bed at night, when you should be sleepy and your body ready to do it's night time work, the cycles are disrupted and don't rise and flow as they should. This is a lifelong thing. When you are LS and everything is once again functioning as it should, an occasional discretion isn't going to do much damage. But the disruptions can take up to 2 weeks to settle back into the natural rhythms again. Dr. Jack says it took him a full 3 years before he could say he was really healed and everything functioning as it should.

    The 6-8 weeks is just to reach LS, which means other hormones will then begin doing what they are supposed to do, but that doesn't mean everything is back on track yet. Only the testing wil let you know when things are working in total balance. If any of this is incorrect, I hope I find out from Dr. Jack, but it is what I've gleaned from reading both Mastering Leptin and the Kruse site.

    Last week I discovered that I can't use the whey concentrate. My FBG was 107. I drank a whey drink (with milk in it, which I shouldn't have added). 15 min later my BG was 117. Another 15 min later it was 132. I figured that was enough of a spike for me, so I will eliminate it. I'll do a test again for dairy, but I bet anything it is going to be a no-no for me. I am 4 weeks into the reset, have lost no weight at all and have just begun to notice a positive change in my sleep and energy levels. But that is still progress!

    We are camping now and I have only intermittent internet. I have control over my foods, but not so much the timing. Will continue to do my best, but when we are home Wednesday again I am hitting it strictly once more. No whey, no dairy until I begin losing, then only small occasional bits as condiments in a meal.
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    Ya know... I was thinking about my previous HCG rounds. My very 1st one was 'text' book, as far as they say what to do and what would happen. I did P3 for 3 weeks, no problem. Then stabilized beautifully - that was the only time that ever happened. Then I moved into P4 and started adding stuff... and got into some bad things too, like homemade bread, pizza, chocolate cake, etc etc. I was able to burn everything off and hold my LDW beautifully through all of that and yes, I even lost weight in that very first P4 -- about 6lbs.. Note, non of my subsequent rounds have ever been that smooth, and I am a 'by the book' kind of guy. I saw what works and do not vary it or cheat.

    But, thinking about all this now... I am thinking that I must have gained Leptin Sensitivity in that first round, just judging by the way I was able to burn off everything like it was not there and even lose more weight... I was sleeping good, exercising easily, life was good. Hmm thinking of when I was exercising... it was in the evening like Dr K suggests... that was the only time I had available, guess it worked out good.
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