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    Question LR doesn't work with gastric bypass ...

    All, I just read ( http://www.jackkruse.com/how-does-the-leptin-rx-work/) that
    "Interestingly, the leptin Rx will not work well in people who have had previous gastric surgery ( vagotomies for ulcer surgery) or gastric bypasses that destroy the normal neural connections of the gut innervated by the vagus nerve. People with lap bands, however, it seems not to bother much because the vagus nerve remains mostly intact in these cases. My belief is that those people who had a formal gastric bypass will need an external vagal stimulator or synthetic leptin to get to optimal once again."
    Does anyone know anyone who has tried LRx w/ a bypass and had it work? Or if JK has any updated info on this theory? I am going to first see if hCG works when my stash gets here.
    R1 213.8, LIW 191.0, end 189.0, -23 lb TOTAL -25//R2 194; 3 weeks only, end LIW 184.
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    R5 192 after 2 lb gain loading, Wk 1 -8 lbs, Wk 2 0, Wk 30 -8LBS to 184
    R6 186 after 2 lb gain loading, Wk 1 -4 to 182, 100 lbs lost total as of 2Nov14, 7 years in the making!

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    Yeah, that's what he told me, too, when I asked him about it last year. I had gastric bypass more than 10 years ago.

    I believe he is now thinking that the cold water treatment thing might work for gastric bypass patients, but I haven't had the nerve to try it.

    I do know that I do better overall when I follow the leptin reset rules, at least in a general way. I'm not regimented enough to go beyond that. I wouldn't say I necessarily meet his criteria for leptin reset success, but I am healthier and feel better, so I'm happy.

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    It is not a theory.......it is based upon natures three laws. photoelectric effect, water chemistry and magnetism are the basics of all matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grammy1952 View Post
    I have never really seen the leptin reset fix hormones. But even if it could, it wouldn't do it in 6 weeks, It would take months. I'd go see a naturopath.
    it does fix gut hormones......but not the hormones I think you are thinking of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Kruse View Post
    It is not a theory.......it is based upon natures three laws. photoelectric effect, water chemistry and magnetism are the basics of all matter.
    Thank you for your response doctor! Am assuming that you have no suggestions for bypass patients? I had mine some time ago when I couldnt lose on 500 cal a day, somewhat like grammy from what I understand of her situation. I felt like I had no other option. I still have a way to go in terms of getting healthy and was hoping the reset would help my body to start functioning normally regarding food processing.
    R1 213.8, LIW 191.0, end 189.0, -23 lb TOTAL -25//R2 194; 3 weeks only, end LIW 184.
    R3 198. 3 weeks only, LIW 188//R4 208, Wk 1 -8lbs, Wk2 0lbs, Wk3 -5lbs, Wk4 -3lbs, Wk5 -0.5lbs, Wk6 - 0, LIW 190, -18 lbs
    R5 192 after 2 lb gain loading, Wk 1 -8 lbs, Wk 2 0, Wk 30 -8LBS to 184
    R6 186 after 2 lb gain loading, Wk 1 -4 to 182, 100 lbs lost total as of 2Nov14, 7 years in the making!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janeen View Post
    I do know that I do better overall when I follow the leptin reset rules, at least in a general way. I'm not regimented enough to go beyond that. I wouldn't say I necessarily meet his criteria for leptin reset success, but I am healthier and feel better, so I'm happy.
    So how long have you been following the rules, if you dont mind sharing? By The Rules do you mean meal timing, little carbs etc? And if you havent had "success", do you find that you can eat 1500 cal a day occasionally and not gain? Do you sleep well? If you had inflammation did that improve? Thanks so much!
    R1 213.8, LIW 191.0, end 189.0, -23 lb TOTAL -25//R2 194; 3 weeks only, end LIW 184.
    R3 198. 3 weeks only, LIW 188//R4 208, Wk 1 -8lbs, Wk2 0lbs, Wk3 -5lbs, Wk4 -3lbs, Wk5 -0.5lbs, Wk6 - 0, LIW 190, -18 lbs
    R5 192 after 2 lb gain loading, Wk 1 -8 lbs, Wk 2 0, Wk 30 -8LBS to 184
    R6 186 after 2 lb gain loading, Wk 1 -4 to 182, 100 lbs lost total as of 2Nov14, 7 years in the making!

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    MissRed, I encourage you to keep doing your homework and find out what is best for you. Ask questions from people who have done the things you are considering. Make sure you ask women not just men.

    There are many theories out there, but you want to find what has actually worked for people.
    Just read Weight Loss Apocalypse which gave me new resolve.
    Currently getting back to the ticker weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissRed View Post
    So how long have you been following the rules, if you dont mind sharing? By The Rules do you mean meal timing, little carbs etc? And if you havent had "success", do you find that you can eat 1500 cal a day occasionally and not gain? Do you sleep well? If you had inflammation did that improve? Thanks so much!
    I have maintained fairly well in between rounds. I just finished another round 3 weeks ago, and immediately went back to the leptin reset version. I do correction days, though.

    In general, I think Dr Kruse's rules just make good sense. I function better when I eat a big protein breakfast, when I keep carbs low, when I don't eat late at night, and when i get s good night's sleep. I would guess most people do, as it really helps our bodies regulate themselves.

    I always eat more than 1500 calories. Inflammation is down, energy is up, and sleep is better. I have a lot of food sensitivities and leaky gut, so I am working on those issues, as well. All the pieces keep fitting together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsybitsy View Post
    MissRed, I encourage you to keep doing your homework and find out what is best for you. Ask questions from people who have done the things you are considering. Make sure you ask women not just men.

    There are many theories out there, but you want to find what has actually worked for people.
    Agree.

    What worked for other women is very useful information, but then you have to try things and find what works for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janeen View Post
    I have maintained fairly well in between rounds. I just finished another round 3 weeks ago, and immediately went back to the leptin reset version. I do correction days, though.

    In general, I think Dr Kruse's rules just make good sense. I function better when I eat a big protein breakfast, when I keep carbs low, when I don't eat late at night, and when i get s good night's sleep. I would guess most people do, as it really helps our bodies regulate themselves.

    I always eat more than 1500 calories. Inflammation is down, energy is up, and sleep is better. I have a lot of food sensitivities and leaky gut, so I am working on those issues, as well. All the pieces keep fitting together.
    Whereas I like protein at every meal especially breakfast, what I found is that 50g of protein is not a good idea for me after all. What I have read is that once you get over 30g your body turns it into glucose-- something we were trying to avoid.

    I wound up gaining 10 lbs on the Reset following the rules exactly. After I reached the 10 lb mark, I couldn't see myself doing it anymore. I had worked hard to lose the weight and was not happy watching that all just vanish.
    Just read Weight Loss Apocalypse which gave me new resolve.
    Currently getting back to the ticker weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsybitsy View Post
    MissRed, I encourage you to keep doing your homework and find out what is best for you. Ask questions from people who have done the things you are considering. Make sure you ask women not just men.
    There are many theories out there, but you want to find what has actually worked for people.
    Of course I agree, which is why I am asking so many questions here. Not having a lot of luck finding people who have had gastric bypass that are willing to disclose that info, have tried hCG, and reset with LRx.
    Maybe you can remember back to when you were brand new to all this and were excited and nervous about maybe finding THE ANSWERS to why your body has been like this all these years and has been a mystery to the medical profession. So far I am able to find some Theories and that is a start, until I have some hard data N=1 to plug in and share ;D
    R1 213.8, LIW 191.0, end 189.0, -23 lb TOTAL -25//R2 194; 3 weeks only, end LIW 184.
    R3 198. 3 weeks only, LIW 188//R4 208, Wk 1 -8lbs, Wk2 0lbs, Wk3 -5lbs, Wk4 -3lbs, Wk5 -0.5lbs, Wk6 - 0, LIW 190, -18 lbs
    R5 192 after 2 lb gain loading, Wk 1 -8 lbs, Wk 2 0, Wk 30 -8LBS to 184
    R6 186 after 2 lb gain loading, Wk 1 -4 to 182, 100 lbs lost total as of 2Nov14, 7 years in the making!

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