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    May 2024 Loaders - Making Progress

    Hi May Loaders, this thread's for you!

    Use it to plan your round, document your P2, share questions and concerns and get and give support. Anyone in or approaching P2 is welcome and we also encourage veterans to join in and add their wisdom and encouragements. (You can even hang on into P3 if you like.)

    All the input I give is based on the original protocol wisdom, variations on that are also supported here.

    The name for the group this month is Making Progress. I think it helps to work toward your HCG goal one day at a time, especially when feeling overwhelmed. In the HCG diet, we know that if we stay the course, we will make progress toward our goals. So, if you have a down day, check your stats and you will see you are making progress. Thats what gets you there!

    Please join us!
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    A full review of my experience with DietDoc and how the round progressed can be found here: my Diet Doc review and my Hcg coaching blog is here.

    Medical Disclaimer: My statements are not intended to treat, diagnose or cure any medical condition.

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    just posting that i will be away but might lurk from time to time
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    2011 R1 start206 R2 6/2011 176 R3 03/2013 156 R4 06/29/2014 162.R5 05/09/2015 154.4 R6 2017 148.2 liw 137.6 R7 LDW 137.2 R8LIW 142.8 3/8/20 liw 144.2 LIW 149.4 Aug 2022LIW 141 Mar 2023 LIW 145.4 Aug 5 liw 143.2 March 22 148.6 9 lb loss

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    p4 147.2. at liw. got confused on liw yesterday. i keep thinking it was 147.6. so yesterday i was 147.6 so i was over liw dropped .4 yesterday but over last weeks weight.
    not complaining as i ate poorly last week in that out of town was more protein snacks and not much fresh food.
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    2011 R1 start206 R2 6/2011 176 R3 03/2013 156 R4 06/29/2014 162.R5 05/09/2015 154.4 R6 2017 148.2 liw 137.6 R7 LDW 137.2 R8LIW 142.8 3/8/20 liw 144.2 LIW 149.4 Aug 2022LIW 141 Mar 2023 LIW 145.4 Aug 5 liw 143.2 March 22 148.6 9 lb loss

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    Good morning and Happy May!

    I started off today (L2) down .7 to 198.1. Not sure how I feel about losing on load days, but I'll take the losses where I can get them. I came in just over 2000 calories yesterday. I had coffee with collagen protein, a big bowl of oatmeal with raisins, some deviled eggs, an apple, and BBQ chicken, broccoli, and a huge sweet potato with butter for dinner. A little heavier on the carbs than I might've needed, but it was good. Gonna load today and then do one more load day tomorrow before I drop the bottom out starting Friday. That gives me time to make sure I am sufficiently loaded, and time to grocery shop and meal plan.

    Here's to a good month for all of us!

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    Hi Jenny, thanks for reporting in, because I think I can give you some good news.

    Unless you have been on a low-fat regimen for a long time previous to starting the protocol, you do not need to load for 3 days. The HCG is built up to full strength in your body on the third injection day and you are ready to start losing fat. A third day of loading will just add more weight that you then have to lose in P2, and in my thinking, kind of wastes an injection.

    @rose: being at LIW in P4 is a victory. Congrats!

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    P2D8: no loss, 143. So losses for week one is 6 pounds. I always hope for more, but 6 is good. Now to chip away at the rest. My losses tend to drib and drab after the first week, so finding motivation is harder. Just have to look at one day at a time.
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    Leez: I'm actually doing the homeopathic drops, so I don't know if that makes a difference. But I was/am careful about fats bc of liver/gall bladder issues, and after tracking what I eat the past several weeks, it's clear that I was undereating (not intentionally!), which I think was also contributing to holding onto weight. I guess I just don't want to underload and then struggle with losing the rest of the way. I've had rounds like that before. It's brutal!

    I have been using the Cronometer app to track not only macros and nutrition, but exercise and weight, and it gives suggestions based on your data if you want to lose weight. For example, hcg diet aside, it has my BMR around 1560 cals a day, plus another exercise/activity brings me up to 2336. To lose, my goal deficit takes a little over 700 calories off the top, putting me around 1577 a day to consume (unless I exercise more). Early on, I wasn't meeting that. I just wasn't hungry. I am like that a lot! So as I learn to eat more again (while making my calories count), the weight has finally been coming off. I know that's a separate animal and it all changes once I start the VLC days.

    Also, 6lbs is good! Take the wins where you can get them!!

    Rose: Congrats on keeping it stable! I'm looking forward to being where you are!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JennyV View Post
    Leez: I'm actually doing the homeopathic drops, so I don't know if that makes a difference. But I was/am careful about fats bc of liver/gall bladder issues, and after tracking what I eat the past several weeks, it's clear that I was undereating (not intentionally!), which I think was also contributing to holding onto weight. I guess I just don't want to underload and then struggle with losing the rest of the way. I've had rounds like that before. It's brutal!

    I have been using the Cronometer app to track not only macros and nutrition, but exercise and weight, and it gives suggestions based on your data if you want to lose weight. For example, hcg diet aside, it has my BMR around 1560 cals a day, plus another exercise/activity brings me up to 2336. To lose, my goal deficit takes a little over 700 calories off the top, putting me around 1577 a day to consume (unless I exercise more). Early on, I wasn't meeting that. I just wasn't hungry. I am like that a lot! So as I learn to eat more again (while making my calories count), the weight has finally been coming off. I know that's a separate animal and it all changes once I start the VLC days.

    Also, 6lbs is good! Take the wins where you can get them!!

    Rose: Congrats on keeping it stable! I'm looking forward to being where you are!!
    I have tried to correlate weight loss with calorie reduction in the past, and it just doesn't work for my metabolism. In my keto diet, I average fats 65% of calories, carbs 7%; and losses during an hcg round ought to correlate to reduction in the fats I eat; but it's not straightforward. I do not do heavy exercise during a round, only walking. In the past, before I learned to make sure to get enough salt (electrolytes) during a round, I would get weak and light-headed when doing more strenuous exercising. Years back, some members actually fell and injured themselves from low electrolytes.

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    Yes, it makes sense to do the extra load day in that case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gz9gjg View Post
    I have tried to correlate weight loss with calorie reduction in the past, and it just doesn't work for my metabolism. In my keto diet, I average fats 65% of calories, carbs 7%; and losses during an hcg round ought to correlate to reduction in the fats I eat; but it's not straightforward. I do not do heavy exercise during a round, only walking. In the past, before I learned to make sure to get enough salt (electrolytes) during a round, I would get weak and light-headed when doing more strenuous exercising. Years back, some members actually fell and injured themselves from low electrolytes.
    I think it was easier/more straightforward to think calories in vs. calories out when I was younger. After 4-5 rounds of recurring EBV/mono in the past 3 years and being thrown into perimenopause, my body/hormones have tossed that idea straight out the window. And I absolutely agree on the electrolytes. I've drank half my body weight in water for years, but not getting in enough electrolytes actually made that dangerous. I've switched back from filtered to spring or mineral water bc it's basically dead-- no nutrients. And I count total fluid intake now, not just water. There are a lot of things that I used to do/think were healthy that really just ended up sabotaging my efforts to be healthy. All of this really is a journey for me into looking at things differently.

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    Good Morning y'all! It's so quiet on the forum the past few days-- I don't know if it's just that time of year or what. I apologize if I'm talking too much! Last day of loading and I gained my lost .7 from yesterday back. But the guacamole was worth every ounce and more. I haven't made it at home in a while. I could have finished off another whole bowl of it; it was sooo good. I want to try meal planning this go around, and that probably needs to happen today before vlc part kicks in. I usually just make sure I have things in the house I can eat and then wing it, but then I inevitably hit days where I can't think or something comes up, or I just don't feel like cooking, and then I stress myself out over what to eat. This round is gonna be a good one. No stress... ok no EXTRA stress.

    I upped my LDN last night to the final 4.5mg landing spot. I was able to sleep with no mental drama, so hopefully that will be smooth sailing from here on out. If you've ever taken it before, you probably know exactly what I'm talking about. I can definitely tell it is making a difference, and as my energy continues to come back and the brain fog lifts, I have been able to be more active, which is finally a positive feedback loop instead of the negative feedback loop I've been stuck in the past 3 years. I still have to make good energy choices, and some days, even getting 10K steps in is too much. But I'm able to do it more often than not which hasn't been the case until recently, so I'll definitely take it!!

    Alright, I'm done rambling now. I hope everyone has a great day!

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    Never apologize for posting! That's what helps us all and why we are here in the forums.

    I'm glad the LDN is helping you. Especially with sleep, because that can be a problem in P2 and you need good sleep for weight loss. I think its one of the few pharmaceuticals that does no harm, and can really help with so many auto-immune issues.

    P2D9: 3rd wake up with no loss. I know it will eventually break, so the only thing to do is just keep on doing the protocol. I'm not measuring, but I can see changes even with no scale drop.
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    Thank you! And I agree about LDN. For years, I did biomedical interventions with my kids with autism (3 out of 4), and they are all in a good place now. But it came at the cost of not taking care of myself. I'm long accustomed to clean eating and dealing with inflammation, etc., but I didn't replenish my own oxygen, as they say, and it eventually caught up. Now I'm trying to clean that mess back up, which would have been much easier if I hadn't let myself go in the first place. Hindsight is 20/20.

    Having said all that, I decided at the last minute to add a couple of "junk food" things to my load, just bc I wanted them-- a lemon bar for dessert (since I rarely treat myself to dessert!), and pasta salad with the sesame chicken we're having for dinner. I'm also having some mozzarella sticks, a half a loaded baked potato (with butter, bacon, cheese, and chives), and some broccoli. I'm gonna be up on the scale tomorrow, but it will be ok, and I can start full and ready to go.

    I know they are necessary/inevitable, but I hate the lull parts!! I'm glad you can see changes and that keep you pushing through, but man it's frustrating! Here's to tomorrow being the break! Do you think it's bc you are already so close to goal?

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