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    Oh, that bun was definitely not on any protocol... it was more of a minimizing damage move. Otherwise, it was going to be potato chips. And waaay more guilt.

    Generally speaking, I'm probably doing something closer to HCG 2.0, basing my calories on 40% of BMR (for the most part-- I eat a little extra protein on days when I am more active). I'm not eating fat (aside from the little bit of milk in my coffee), and I am keeping an eye on lean protein and net carbs, or I'm at least trying to, which still keeps me eating mostly from Simeon's list, with a few tweaks... things like mixing veggies, or allowing foods that have similar nutritional profiles like broccoli, or green beans, or blueberries.

    Yesterday was just not a good day. Today should be easier. I'm not hungry this morning, and I'm not feeling nauseous. I'm also not struggling with my thoughts and emotions as much today.

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    I hear you about the chips calling. Salty-crunchy has a siren song for me too.

    Many people do quite well on 2.0. I always stick with original, because I know it works for me. And I don't want to invest all this the effort in trying something different that might work.

    That's probably why I am not tempted to cheat. Im motivated to make every day count.

    Glad your hunger and nausea has resolved.
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    I'm still sticking pretty close... the main difference is that I'm consuming an extra 250-300 calories... but that's really just extra protein. And I eat eggs bc I get meat aversive very quickly, so there's a bit of fat there, too, but it doesn't seem to affect my losses. That's usually what I have for lunch (collagen coffee and an apple are usually my breakfast), and then I try to alternate between beef and chicken for dinner, though I will throw in tuna here and there just to break things up.

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    I am up .2 today. Maybe from the other day, but maybe from my allergies flaring like crazy. I had deconstructed taco salad, flavored with a homemade spice mix, and over a bed of spring salad mix, tomato, and green onions. I haven't had issues with chili powder historically, but I'll keep an eye out next time I use it to see if it happens again, since I know some people have. I'll be really sad if it does, though!

    Hunger seems to be under control now, so I'll stick with the 45 drop dose and see how that goes forward. I feel a little bad about going up, but not as bad as I have in past rounds. Hopefully tomorrow will bring a bigger drop. Think today may be apple for breakfast, tuna for lunch, salad in the afternoon, and eggs for dinner. I'm already tired of beef.

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    I agree that inflammation from an allergy flare up could move you up a bit on the scale. But its just water, so it will pass eventually.

    Why do you feel bad about increasing your dose? Glad it is working.

    When I did my first round with a functional doctor, she advised me to do an apple for breakfast because my cortisol levels were whacky at the time. I've just continued doing that, and also use my other fruit as a snack rather than have it with meals. Seems to work well for me.

    I've really been enjoying the allowed 1 egg+3 whites protein option. Im able to get organic pasteured eggs, and that orange yolk makes the scrambled eggs look normal instead of the normal anemic pale yellow it would be with regular eggs. Somehow, when things look more appealing, they taste better. ^_^

    P2D15: no loss, 140, total loss 9 pounds
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    I feel bad about going up on the scale, not about going up on my drops. I worded that poorly.

    I keep the apple/fruit in for the same reason. Apples are good for our livers as well, so it's an easy call to start my day with that and protein coffee. And I like having the second fruit in the afternoon as a tide-me-over. My normal eating patterns are pretty close to a 16/8 intermittent fast. I don't like eating past around 5:30 or so, so using it as a dessert isn't an option. We have strawberries bearing right now, so I'm getting to eat those fresh, which I'm really enjoying!

    We have chickens here, so I'm eating fresh organic eggs, as well. It's crazy the difference in the yolk colors on the rare occasion I have to get eggs from the store! Even the organic ones!

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    I (romantically) think I would love to have my own chickens, but in practicality, city ordinance requires a bit too much distance for the way my property is situated--and I'm not up for indoor chickens. That's awesome that you can keep them.

    Thanks for clarifying on my question. I find each round I do I have less angst about my progress. I know I'm going to eventually get to a way better place than where I started.
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    The kids and I share almost 6 acres with my parents out in the country. They have the "big garden" (my mom's term), blueberry bushes, a variety of fruit trees, and chickens there. They have had horses and pigs in the past, but not in the past couple of years. I have a raised bed garden here, not too small or too big, but still grows a lot of food. I have been having to take care of everything for both households the past several months, so at least I'm getting the benefit of fresh eggs/veggies/fruit in return!

    We have mulberries (which I didn't know grew on trees til last year!) coming in now. The pear, peach, and apple trees are all covered in baby fruit. We'll have figs this year as well, if the weather holds. We also have blackberries, muscadines, and elderberries growing wild everywhere! There are a couple of pawpaw trees up the hill that have had fruit in the fall--for like a second before the deer get them! I've never eaten a pawpaw, but I'd like to try one! And I have a pecan tree in my front yard that is finally getting to bearing age. Those take a while!

    It's all a lot of work, especially when you consider all the preservation that comes in later, but it's so worth it.

    As far as the angst goes, there is so much beyond my control that influences weight loss. I can only do what I can do, and that has to be enough. My aim is ultimately better health, part of which involves coming down on the scale. But there may be other things my body needs in the interim before I can get back where I was. I'm already in a better place than I was at the beginning of the year. And like you, I know I'll be in an even better place at the end of this round than I started, even if I only lose another 5-10 lbs. Every little bit counts.

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    hate to be ignorant but what is LDN?

    The number of posts usually correlates to whether you are on hcg or maintaining. posting as you go thru vlcd or P3 helps us.

    i have been on P4 but 90 percent following P3 with a half a piece of bread twice in last week. today 146.8 so slightly under LIW. my plan is to weigh once or twice a week and maintain until
    i do another short round to drop 7-8 lbs
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    2011 R1 start206 R2 6/2011 176 R3 03/2013 156 R4 06/29/2014 162.R5 05/09/2015 154.4 R6 2017 148.2 liw 137.6 R7 LDW 137.2 R8LIW 142.8 3/8/20 liw 144.2 LIW 149.4 Aug 2022LIW 141 Mar 2023 LIW 145.4 Aug 5 liw 143.2 March 22 148.6 9 lb loss

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    Hi rose, happy to see you are keeping below your LIW.....I aspire to that kind of report!

    LDN is low dose naltrexone. Naltrexone is a prescription drug used to help people wean off opiates, but it has an off label use in a very low dose that is effective for treating auto-immune diseases, and can provide great relief for those with MS, rheumatoid or chronic fatigue pain. One of the nice side effects is that it increases intestinal motility, so very helpful for those with that issue. I take it to keep my thyroid antibodies in check. I generally avoid pharma, but this drug is very safe at the low dose used. About the most disruptive thing you might experience is a few vivid dreams when you first start.

    P2D16 4th day of no loss. 140, total loss 9 pounds.

    I'm officially in another stall, y'all.......ok, new territory for me. It will be the first time I've had 2 stalls to break through in a round. Usually only get one, but sometimes that one is a doozy....I had one 11 days long once. At least there has been no gains. That's almost harder to endure than a stall.
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    Thank you Rose. I feel like I am talking way too much. Some of that is definitely from being in P2, but some is also detoxing plus anxiety that comes out sideways. We're also having some super nasty weather (tornadoes and such) in our area the past couple of days (and today!), so I'm on edge about that, too. Wherever y'all are, please stay safe! I'm looking forward to P3/4 and being in size 6-8 territory like you and Leez! Definitely keep posting so I can stay motivated to join you!

    As far as LDN goes, it is highly anti-inflammatory, and works well as an immunomodulator, so it's helping with swelling, joint pain, recurring viral infections, my allergies have slowed down some with it, and my brain fog is finally lifting. The most surprising positive on it this time has been the return of some of my energy. If you've ever had EBV/mono, you know how debilitating the fatigue can be-- that feeling like you've been hit by a truck. That's getting a lot better. And my sleep has been way less disturbed this round by ramping up a lot slower. I'm actually sleeping this time! The normal dose for naltrexone is 50-100mg. I'm on 4.5. Like Leez, I'm not a fan of pharmaceuticals, but the side effects are basically what we are aiming for, and the safety profile is great. It's also non-addictive and there is no issue if you have to stop taking it.

    Leez... UGH. That's how I feel about it for you!! I think you're right about it being harder, because then you start to ask, "is this where my body wants me to stay?" If you were going up, you could find something to change/adjust. Has 140 ever been a set point for you?

    Finally-- P2D7. 195.3. And in a plot twist, I think I've started my period. Day 22- a week early. Would explain the little bit of weight gain the past 2 days, but ugh. That's apparently how I'm feeling about everything today. UGH!!!!! Do I have to stop drops for a day or two like you would with shots? I think I always have, but I don't know if I actually needed to.

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    My most solid set point has been 138, so now I'm wondering if I'm going to get past that this round. I have another 14 injections to get to 30 days, so I guess we'll see what happens.

    You don't have to stop for your period with hhcg. Even with RX most people don't stop now, or if they do, its only for their heaviest day.
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