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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshinehcg View Post
    All that snow we had well, yesterday it rained. Now as it’s mild it’s melting but it’s making things a combination of slush and ice! At least no shoveling.
    A few years back I heard Kelly Ripa describe the melting snow in NYC as "snit" as it got dirtier and dirtier... LOL
    At least you won't have to shovel.

    ETA: Maybe it was snirt... Anyway, made me laugh.

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    sunshine, Keep us posted on the planned interruption, please. I plan to do the same (actually got the idea from you!) but wonít be going off shots till next Wednesday. Since three days off shots are required on vlc, Iím planning to do the interruption and into p3 feb 13 and going back into p2 on February the 22nd. Thatís in p3 for 9 days so I wouldnít need to reload. I guess I could do p2 for another 2 weeks? Have fun with kids being in town for birthdays this weekend!

    Leez, if I take that 12 days off of injections, could I do another 2 weeks on injections, even tho that would take my round to a little longer than the straight 40 days of doses?

    Iím really feeling in a good place right now, with my 1.6 lb drop this morning so of course feel like I could go on forever, but know those drops wonít go on Day after day. Happy Groundhog Day everyone!

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    Leez, if I take that 12 days off of injections, could I do another 2 weeks on injections, even tho that would take my round to a little longer than the straight 40 days of doses?
    40 dose days is the maximum round length. Any longer puts you at risk for immunity. And that is no small risk if you have more to lose. Immunity can set you back a year from successfully using HCG again, or even permanently. Will you hit immunity on day 42? Probably not. The protocol says immunity can set in sometime around the 40th injection. I could be right away, or it could happen many days later. There is no way to know.
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    LEEZ, thanks for feedback. Counting my 2 load days wi injections, next week when I plan on starting my PI, and subtracting my 2 skip days that I took, should be 34 dose days, and only leaves me with 6 to go after planned interruption. If I skipped this Sunday and the next Sunday, I could at
    Least do a week after interruption right? Im sorry for being a pest, I just want to do
    It correctly. Do you think it would be better to do the planned interruption earlier, but so it would include Valentineís Day, to allow for more time in a p2 after interruption, or just skip a day on Sunday and next Sunday, wonder if that makes any difference? Iím prob being as clear as mud.

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    Its good to plan for at least a full week of HCG after the interruption. Less than that is hardly worth doing, because 2 of those days are used building up your HCG levels again.

    Once you get to 23 dose days, you can start an interruption any time after that. And then you can stay in the interruption for up to 14 days without reloading (this doesn't count the 72 hours transition time). If you start the interruption early, you will have more days after the interruption before you hit the 40 dose day maximum.

    You might be able to get an extra skip day in between now and the interruption, as you can safely skip every 5th day. But you'll have to look at the calendar and make sure that you have at least 3 consecutive dose days before transitioning off to prepare for the interruption.
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    Thank you Leez, that was helpful information. I agree about having at least a week of P2 after an interruption, just makes sense. I'm going to check my calendar and see how I can work this. You are so helpful, thank you.

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    Cool Possible solution -- mixing proteins, mixing fruits

    Hi all.

    Recently I was trying to figure out how to get my calories up (long story; dietary restrictions due to health issues)..........and I wondered if mixing proteins was allowed. And, if mixing fruits was allowed.

    The wonderful Leez told me that it is, indeed, allowed. This is AMAZING, and has already helped me shed a pound -- I am a looooow-loss girl. Hypothyroid issues, gut issues...etc.

    I can now contain high-FODMAP foods with low-FODMAP foods -- specifically fruits. And low-calorie proteins can be incorporated with higher-calorie proteins (such as shrimp with beef...etc.) to get my calories up.

    I have issues with digesting carbohydrates so many fruits and vegetables are off the table for me. This means I have very very limited choices, lol, to choose from. With this protocol. And getting enough calories has always been truly difficult as a result! Which is likely a big culprit in my history of low-losses.

    But now, I have a strategy that just may work!!

    THANK YOU LEEEEEZ!!! I cannot express my gratitude enough. Thank you thank you thank you.

    Already am down a pound since yesterday -- met my calories!!

    So excited; I hope this is the missing piece I've been looking for!

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    Good morning friends!

    Still Groundhog day here, same weight third day in a row. And I'm happy about that since I had beef and red cabbage last night and typically see a slight gain due to digesting the beef. Loss average is .8 a day right now, I'm on day 10. I hope to keep the average above .5, I've done it before on OP and that would be a happy outcome this round.

    Leez, when you plan a PI, do you count the loading day injections as part of your minimum 23 doses? I have in the past and wonder if that impacted any results.

    Gonnaloseit, I'm a cat lady and have always loved your profile picture! I was tempted to foster during quarantine after watching "The Dodo" videos! (My quarantine obsession - highly recommend!)

    No other updates, just waiting for snow melting sunshine today to avoid digging out the car and driveway.

    Have a wonderful Wednesday lovelies!
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    Good morning ladies, quick check in here. Was worried I'd go up when weighing in today, because of significant drop yesterday morning. But fortunately, dropped slightly today. another .4 drop. I'll take that. Hope everyone has a good weigh-in, if they are weighing in daily. I wish I wouldn't, but just can't seem to forego that--actually weigh in everyday even when not on HCG.

    I think Leez will answer your question later. I think you count injection days (dose days) into your calculations, and you are not supposed to do a PI until you have done at least 23 dose days, at the very earliest. But she is the coach, she will answer correctly--hope I'm not giving wrong info.

    Hope everyone is ok, that if snow, they are digging out--and sun is out shining. Always make me feel better. Check in later, I tend to check in periodically during day, it just helps me stay focused.

    I'm wondering if PI protocols are exactly as P3 protocols? Which means, do you immediately try and up your calories when you have been off hcg for the requisite 3 days (injections). I know you don't need to reload unless Pi is over 14 days, but I'm not sure about the eating. Any guidance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tracy View Post
    Leez, when you plan a PI, do you count the loading day injections as part of your minimum 23 doses? I have in the past and wonder if that impacted any results.
    Here's what the protocol says:
    Interruptions occurring before 20 effective injections have been given are most undesirable, because with
    less than that number of injections some weight is liable to be regained. After the 20th injection an unavoidable
    interruption is merely a loss of time.
    The word "effective" is key. That means that you need 23 injections total, as the first three are the build up to the full dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tracy View Post
    Good morning friends!

    Still Groundhog day here, same weight third day in a row. And I'm happy about that since I had beef and red cabbage last night and typically see a slight gain due to digesting the beef. Loss average is .8 a day right now, I'm on day 10. I hope to keep the average above .5, I've done it before on OP and that would be a happy outcome this round.

    Leez, when you plan a PI, do you count the loading day injections as part of your minimum 23 doses? I have in the past and wonder if that impacted any results.

    Gonnaloseit, I'm a cat lady and have always loved your profile picture! I was tempted to foster during quarantine after watching "The Dodo" videos! (My quarantine obsession - highly recommend!)

    No other updates, just waiting for snow melting sunshine today to avoid digging out the car and driveway.

    Have a wonderful Wednesday lovelies!
    Oh you are a cat lady? That is AWESOME!

    My entire life is, well....LOL cats. Well, ONE cat. I'm currently developing a company FOR cats -- cat health, cat wellness. Long story. The short version: necessity is the cat-mother of all invention. My cat has health issues; I want to solve them for her and for the world at-large. I have gotten the product name registered with the USPTO, actually.

    I'm an inventor, really. Not a business person; lol...oh man, I certainly am not. LOL.

    But I come up with solutions to everyday problems. My cat's health is a major problem; I have to solve it. Just have to.

    And I have just her; one kitty. She's enough, tho! LOL.

    Fostering would be great, if I could have more than one cat. When I adopted her, they said she couldn't have any other cats around. The org that had fostered her said she needed peace and quiet away from other cats. And to not have any others. In fact, many wanted to adopt her, but they already had cats, so their applications were refused. When I found her, thank God, I didn't have any cats. So it worked out. She is my heart, my greatest blessing. She is lovely. <3

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    Tracy, still Groundhog Day here as well! Up 0.5 this morning, but still 1 lb below a week ago, so I'm looking at the big picture. Also, no bathroom activity, so I foresee a change once that happens as well. My plan is to just keep on keepin' on. VLCD20, so I am at the halfway point! Gotta celebrate every milestone. AND a NSV as I realized this morning that when I walk, my thighs no longer touch. Something is getting smaller somewhere...

    Starbucks (from the January thread) Congrats on hitting your goal number! I'm sure you will do fine in P3. You have tenacity and I think a big part of being successful with cutting out alcohol or food is just recognizing that it's a problem

    Dubbles, Congrats on your drop in weight. My opinion on doing a PI is that it's not worth the extra time/days to be on P2. That's just me, personally. I tried a PI once and it was pretty much a disaster. I lost a week of losing and the irony is that the meal I took the PI for was SOOooo not worth it Anyway, good luck in whatever you decide. Oh, and I wanted to add that for those of you considering cutting the P3/P4 wait times between rounds short so you can hurry up and do the next round, I agree with Leez in that the wait times between rounds is key in stabilizing. Your body needs a break from all that losing and needs time to adjust to a new lower weight. Also, your skin needs time to adjust and shrink. It all makes sense to me, but I am not an expert, just my two cents.

    Gonna - I was reading your posts on your health issues. Just Wow! You certainly have done your research and sounds like you know more that most doctors out there about it. So sad that we have to do our own research, but very happy to hear that it looks like you're getting it under control.

    Tracy and I are both cat ladies! We shared lots of cat stories a couple of rounds ago. I currently have three that I claim ownership for. They were all feral cats who lived on this property when we bought it. Two are quite comfortable inside the house now, but like to be outside too. One is a great hunter, so I named her Hunter She brings us gophers and birds (unfortunately) and sometimes lizards. Her son, who is not tame, only likes the outdoors and likes to sit in trees to keep an eye on things. I'll try to include a picture. The older male looks a lot like your kitty. We named him Morris. For those that remember the old 9 Lives commercial. He looks just like that.

    Sunshine - Hope your PI gets you to where you want to be. Those last 5/10 lbs are elusive! You've done really well this round!

    Leez - Thanks for your wonderful guidance, always!

    Happy Hump Day and have a wonderful rest of your week!
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    Pre-HCG SW: 175
    Fake drops round:158.7 February 2017
    R1 SW: 158.7 LDW: 152.5 March 2017
    R2 SW: 151.3 LDW: 144.0 May 2017
    R3 SW: 135.9 LDW: 130.9 October 2017
    R4 SW: 137.0 LDW: 132.0 March 2018
    R5 SW: 142.6 LDW: 132.1 November 2018
    R6 SW: 144.8 LDW: 136.1 December 2019
    R7 SW: 138.0 LDW: 130.4 February 2021
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