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    The expiration dates are the last day the manufacturer will guarantee the product, not the last day the product is good and effective. In pharmaceuticals it has very little to do with how long the product is good. Many drugs are good long after their expiration dates, but get discarded because of the legal reasons.

    I am awfully hungry today, day two of vlcd so thinking of lowering my dose to 125 instead of the 150 tomorrow.
    Don't just change dose. Skip your dose tomorrow. (you've had just enough doses that it is safe to skip) Pay attention to how you feel after 4pm and into early evening, if hunger is better, drop your dose to 125iu the next day. Since HCG stays in the system for 3 days, just changing dose won't give you hunger relief for several days. Also, hunger happens for both a dose too high and one too low, so the skip day tells you for sure which way to adjust.

    So if the thought is that the mixed HCG loses potency wouldn't one just increase the dose?
    Theoretically, yes, but how much do you increase? You can't be accurate because you don't know how much it has degraded. Also, depending on where you get your HCG, your batch may be fresher or older, and it could just as easily stay potent as degrade. US makers like the ones used by the recommended suppliers we link to on this forum require that efficacy is more than 100%. That means that even if it does degrade, it might only degrade to 105% or 99%. So its not really a problem in that case.
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    Good Morning! Quick Question: Anyone know the proper dosage for B12 shots... I purchased my hcg and b12 from a medical practitioner that had a nurse running the hcg program, well the nurse was fired and the medical practitioner says she is not continuing the program... so I'm on my own... I just received my b12 yesterday and have the following Methylocobalamin 1 mg/ml - 30ml vial - each vial contains sodium chloride 9mg, 1.5% Benzyl alcohol as a preservative, sterile water for injection... I have 3ml syringes with 1/2 1 1/2 markings... I have no idea how much to use... any suggestions? I know how to give them... just not how much or how often, bottle says as prescribed. Thank you!
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    Anyone else just starting VLCD?

    I am looking for an accountability partner with similar timeline. I loaded yesterday and Sunday.

    I have been successful with HCG in 2010 and again in 2012, losing 30 lbs each time.

    P2-VLCD1
    Preload: 167
    Post load: 172
    Goal weight: 139

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    I just started also. Loaded Friday and Saturday, so only 1 day ahead. I also need accountability...already started to cheat yesterday, but stopped myself after a few bites... I am committed to stay the course until my drops run out, and will purchase injections for round 2.

    I also was successful with losing much weight years ago with HCG (homeopathic drops) years ago. Not sure about year, but 2010 sounds about right. Before they became difficult to obtain in the US.

    I am back at my highest weight ever...


    Preload: 269.8
    Post load: 272.2
    Goal weight: 165

    P2-VLCD1: 272.2 (post load weight)
    P2-VLCD2: 264.4
    P2-VLCD3: 264.2 *minimal loss due to tiny cheat, which will NOT be repeated!

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    By the way, there is a daily accountability and support group in a different part of the forums. I'm going to jump over there to the January group; lot's of support!

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    Hey- what is it called?

    No worries on your tiny cheat- it is almost better that you saw that it affected your loss so that you will avoid cheating now. I lost 3.5 lbs today- almost back to pre-load weight. Hoping this continues and I see low 160s by the end of the first week.

    P2-VLCD2: 168.7

    Preload: 167
    Post load: 172
    Goal weight: 139

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    Introduction! Yay! Just found this page...I have already posted on a couple of other places but glad to join other January loaders! I am copying and pasting my question from another thread in case I can get some more help here:

    "Good Morning all! Well...as I mentioned a few pages ago, I am trying this diet again after many previous attepmts have failed. Decided to go through a clinic this time for accountability and to FINALLY get my dose right. I do feel like my does is correct but I am not at all happy with my clinic so I am thinking of buying a scale, buying some Hcg and going it alone.

    Question: Esp for injection folks, I need GOOD, POTENT Hcg. Where is the best place to get it these days? Nu Image? Diet Doc?

    I am so scared! Going back to the clinic to get kne more week of shots so I have time to order on my own!"

    THANKS!!

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    Welcome Amanda!

    I had a good experience with DietDoc's HCG and had one of my better rounds with it. It was compounded in a Florida pharmacy, and they require them to provide a guarantee of over 100% potency. (I this theirs tests at between 110%-115%. That ensures that even if it starts to weaken at somepoint, its probably not going to go below 100%.) I definitely felt it kick in the first day of loading. There is a link to my round review in my signature if you want more details about them.

    I haven't used the product from NuImage, so I can't speak to that. If I was to order from NuImage, I would personally choose to use plain bacteriostatic water to mix with instead of one already mixed with B12. Mainly because I don't think I need extra B12, as I already supplement.

    Whichever place you buy from, you can ignore their dosing recomendations and do what you know works for you.
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    I also recommend DietDoc. If you want your HCG without additives, speak to them instead of ordering on line. (I prefer no additive, others like them)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gz9gjg View Post
    I also recommend DietDoc. If you want your HCG without additives, speak to them instead of ordering on line. (I prefer no additive, others like them)
    So you can order HCG injections from DietDoc without thiamine? That would be awesome, as I have had reactions to so many things in the past! I would hate to waste that much money on HCG I couldn't use...

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    Quote Originally Posted by reunionready View Post
    Hey- what is it called?

    No worries on your tiny cheat- it is almost better that you saw that it affected your loss so that you will avoid cheating now. I lost 3.5 lbs today- almost back to pre-load weight. Hoping this continues and I see low 160s by the end of the first week.

    P2-VLCD2: 168.7

    Preload: 167
    Post load: 172
    Goal weight: 139
    Here is the link...
    Lovely Losers are Joyous and Jammin in January

    I remember very clearly from before how seriously cheating can affect weight loss...It is like stopping dominoes from falling! I just gave into a craving, and then immediately felt regret... If it was my first experience with HCG, I would have kept it up thinking, "It's only the first few days, and it's kinda like fat loading for 1 more meal..."

    Still kicking myself because I could have lose a full pound or more that day... in the long course, it was a wake-up call that I needed support and got me searching for an online group...

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    Quote Originally Posted by t1ghtwad View Post
    So you can order HCG injections from DietDoc without thiamine? That would be awesome, as I have had reactions to so many things in the past! I would hate to waste that much money on HCG I couldn't use...
    Yes, when you have your doctor consultation, you can ask him to write the prescription to be made without theanine.
    At goal since 2015. \(ᵔᴥᵔ)/ Total HCG loss: 77# [5'5" 210-133] Maintenance strategies overview

    A full review of my experience with DietDoc and how the round progressed can be found here: my Diet Doc review and my Hcg coaching blog is here. If you've found my posts helpful, please consider using this DietDoc link on your next HCG order. (your forum discount still applies)

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