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    Hi Kids,

    Looks like lots of activity! I'll have to catch up later...

    So, today is VLCD7 and this morning I was UP 0.2. It was bound to happen as I lost 2.5 lbs over the previous 2 days. Guess my body just decided to put on the brakes for now. I'm not upset or worried as I know fluctuations happen and I have been POP since day 1. Focused on getting enough water in and Must remember to take my magnesium!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbles View Post
    Ok, I am certifiably depressed. Changed over to strict SOP. 2 FRUITS today, grapefruit, and smallish apple, 3.5 oz baked plain chicken (weighed) and 2 small Campari tomatoes--chopped, just tomatoes. Dinner scheduled to have 3.5 oz of shrimp and 5 roasted asparagus spears. The calories for all that total 626. Not even having the other breadstick I'm technically allowed. No where near 500 calories. Guess you can't have the apple and grapefruit in a day. And the apple looked SMALL. Does anyone else weigh their food and find its over 500 calories!? Technically I should skip dinner I guess, but I don't want to, I don't know.
    I don’t weighed my food. I just guesstimate and seem to lose well. Maybe just eat some protein for dinner on a bed of butter lettuce so you don’t starve!! Or can you take a walk to balance it out?


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    @Dubbles:

    1 medium apple: 70 calories
    1 small grapefruit: 64 calories.
    1 large tomato: about 35 calories

    3.6 oz raw chicken breast: 115 calories
    3.6 oz raw shrimp 105 calories
    5 asparagus spears: 12-20 (depending on size)

    Not seeing where you are even approaching 500 calories. I get a total of about 320.

    Maybe you are using calorie counts for skin on chicken?
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    Thanks for feedback Starbucks. I ended up eating the shrimp and 5 asparagus spears, about 15 calories for the asparagus. I didn't add the olive oil and parmesan that I like to put on them, I did for DH but not for me. They are really low calorie. So I had my shrimP and asparagus, anyway. Will see what tomorrow morning weigh in brings. I know the apple was small, but maybe the grapefruit was a little larger than small, I know it wasnt a large one, but weighted, it had 120 calories. Really should have had 1/2 of that grapefruit. Would've brought the calorie count down another 60 calories. I only have one more grapefruit, so may hold off on getting more for a bit.

    This is 2nd day on strict protocol, and I'm still not sure about the fruit and breadsticks. It seems I think less about food when I was doing the 2.0, the fruit triggers my sweet cravings. We'll see--have to give it time. And Leez said stabilizing in P3 would be easier if I included the fruit and breadsticks in p2.

    Hope everyone else is doing ok.

    Leez, I would just weigh my fruit, then google how many calories. I swear that was not a large grapefruit, I purposefully picked smaller grapefruits so I wouldn't need to eat only half. And the apple was 7 oz with core. It looked small! I don't understand why everything I looked up had such high calorie counts. I think the 3 1/2 oz of chicken came up as 160 calories. I need to just trust the protocol. and Not look up calories for every bite, but do measure and weigh. Thanks for reply, I feel a little better after reading your response. Maybe I didn't screw things up like I thought. Fingers crossed.

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    You would weigh the grapefruit after peeling. Yes, the calorie count you found on the chicken is way high for raw, skinless chicken breast.
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    Dubbles for 3.5 oz if chicken breast raw I get 110 cal.


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    Its a good idea to crosscheck calorie counts. The chart my doctor gave me had tilapia at almost 140 for a serving, when in reality its closer to 95.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbles View Post
    Ok, I am certifiably depressed. Changed over to strict SOP. 2 FRUITS today, grapefruit, and smallish apple, 3.5 oz baked plain chicken (weighed) and 2 small Campari tomatoes--chopped, just tomatoes. Dinner scheduled to have 3.5 oz of shrimp and 5 roasted asparagus spears. The calories for all that total 626. Not even having the other breadstick I'm technically allowed. No where near 500 calories. Guess you can't have the apple and grapefruit in a day. And the apple looked SMALL. Does anyone else weigh their food and find its over 500 calories!? Technically I should skip dinner I guess, but I don't want to, I don't know.
    Dubbles... So sorry to hear you are having a bad experience...
    I weigh everything!
    Although my golden rulle is 100g (3.5oz) but often ranges from 75-120 gm... (sometime a tomato may even be 150gm)the only time i edge over the 500 mark is when I do red meat twice in a day... when I do fish a twice I have to seriously up my veggies

    Weighing everything to me is not about being pedantic as much as teaching me to ‘read’ my foods going forward to help me ‘guessing’ my portion sizes after P2... i know that in winter time our oranges are humongous and half an orange weighs as much as 150gm and now in summer a small orange is only 120gm (after peeling)... one common tomato type is about 150 gm and another 80 gm and how much i allow depends on my protein on my plate...

    Totally off topic... One thing that really puzzles me is that i find lettuce a waste of a veggie on P2 it has very little substance to it yet I see it is often a veggie if choice on many peoples menu... I know its classed as a green veg and a lot of people like lettuce...but to me it is just air ... basically zero calories so lettuce does not feature on my plate... and also because it goes limp within a day and then I cant stand it
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    FWIW I only weight proteins and I have yet to count a single calorie. Part of this whole process for me, perhaps ironically, is to become less diet and food obsessed. I've actually gotten pretty good at eyeballing what 100g of raw protein looks like, though I do still check myself with the food scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineMissM View Post
    FWIW I only weight proteins and I have yet to count a single calorie. Part of this whole process for me, perhaps ironically, is to become less diet and food obsessed. I've actually gotten pretty good at eyeballing what 100g of raw protein looks like, though I do still check myself with the food scale.
    Yeah but you should know miss Control freak by now...... I do it just to get my eye in overall....
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    Thanks so much for all of your input. I appreciate it, was really feeling defeated last night. But feel much better today. And your feedback helps, especially on tough days. Yesterday was my tough day. But today is another day. I see both points of view, to weigh everything, and then MissM's view to become less "diet and food obssessed". And evidently on the internet you can find variations in calorie counts. Plan to weigh mostly just protein portions. Not veggies for a while, as I know I can go overboard on that. Anyway, down .4 this morning, so I don't think going back to strict protocol has harmed--maybe on more protein and no fruits or breadsticks, I might have lost more in the past couple of days. Don't know, but trying to stick to tried and true protocol.

    Hope everyone else has a good morning, and great day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbles View Post
    Thanks so much for all of your input. I appreciate it, was really feeling defeated last night. But feel much better today. And your feedback helps, especially on tough days. Yesterday was my tough day. But today is another day. I see both points of view, to weigh everything, and then MissM's view to become less "diet and food obssessed". And evidently on the internet you can find variations in calorie counts. Plan to weigh mostly just protein portions. Not veggies for a while, as I know I can go overboard on that. Anyway, down .4 this morning, so I don't think going back to strict protocol has harmed--maybe on more protein and no fruits or breadsticks, I might have lost more in the past couple of days. Don't know, but trying to stick to tried and true protocol.

    Hope everyone else has a good morning, and great day.
    So glad you're in a better place mentally today, Dubbles! Managing our minds is at least as big a part of this as managing our food, IMHO, LOL. Sometimes we need to talk each other off the ledge. I've certainly been there more than a few times, as Leez and Yvonne could attest.

    I remember reading you mentioned HCG Chica, and if I recall correctly, she did a protocol variation in which she skipped fruit during P2 and lost more but also didn't stabilize as well in P3, so she concluded it was kind of a wash. Lose more now and regain it later or just steady as she goes and ultimately lose and maintain the same amount. That's why I never took that route and why I'm heartened to see you do the classic protocol. And as Leez said, it's a great thing you haven't really had any issues reflected on the scale shifting from one to the other. Hooray for that!

    And a loss is a loss. Last round my losses most days were less than .5 and I even had strings of days when my weight stalled and went up. But it all evens out and it's all cumulative. So important to pay attention from day to day but also hold tight to the long view.

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