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    Thanks, misscast! I have tried hcg more times than I can count in the past (10 years ago) and always failed within the first week. Basically loaded, gained, and quit *yikes* I set overwhelming goals and with my adhd it was too much. This time I decided to do a short round and make my weight loss goal very small, but a number that would make a difference to me (out of 220s and my pants would feel better). But I see now I could have POSSIBLY gotten out of the 200s or at least very close. I think my body would respond nicely to Pop if I stick to it. I do fear P3 though as I've tried high fat low carb before and end up sitting on the throne most of the time. Anyway...i can't let myself jump ahead too much as that's when I throw in the towel at being overwhelmed. So, I won't make a decision today. I'll see how each hour goes, how I manage the afternoon slump, and how I feel tomorrow morning. Then do the same thing. I definitely don't want to mix up my last bottle of hcg and not be ready to fully complete a long round POP, period, for maximum losses. I'm aware of the wasted time and money and for once I'm not going to let myself do that. I won't consider the last 3 weeks a waste, since I lost weight and have stuck "mostly" to my plan--moreso than I ever have with anything. And it helped me to see my potential through all the self-doubt. Okay, I need to stop talking and get moving. My therapist and I decided that I have a tendency to be all talk, not much action. Great list maker, not so great list doer. Fanciest organizational chart creator, not so often fantastical organization implementer. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbles View Post
    So are you thinking of doing a 23-26 day round? Is that what I'm reading, opposed to a 40 day round? Leez always tells us the longer the round the easier the stablization seems to be. Will this be your final round? If not, you might think about doing 30 days, then a short planned interruption and another 10 days POP to get as much as you can from this round, before P3. It's all so individual, noone but you can decide what is best for you. Good luck with decision.
    I initially told myself I would do the shortest round possible, so that my mindset wouldn't be that of "this is going to take forever" and "I can't eat this way that long!" (simply because adhd causes some things to seems so overwhelming that I just avoid them altogether). Not sure if that makes sense. I have big goals and high hopes, but don't know how to tackle them slowly and steadily. My all-or-nothing attitude hasn't helped in many areas of my life. So, I chose to do a 23-day round (I think that's how I calculate it, with my LIW at vlcd20, and P3 starting 72 hours of vlcd + no hcg). I ordered 2-5000mg vials in order to do 2 rounds of 23 days. I would love to learn more of the planned interruption and maybe go into P2 again, this time ready to get 'er done POP 🤣 I'll search the forum and also wait to hear from Leez. I'm a planner and we have some small vacations coming up, so I would want to look at the calendar asap to figure out what days I'd be eating what phase. Thanks, Dubbles!!!! ❤️

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    @skeeballer

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbles View Post
    ...Will this be your final round? If not, you might think about doing 30 days, then a short planned interruption and another 10 days POP to get as much as you can from this round, before P3. It's all so individual, no one but you can decide what is best for you. Good luck with decision.
    Considering your challenge to yourself, I think this suggestion might work well for you. You wouldn't be facing a straight 40 day round, but could get the benefits of one. Doing the interruption gives you a chance to practice P3 eating and prove to yourself that you can do that as well as P2 eating.

    You could also start the interruption after you have had 23 injections if you wish, and then do 17 more dose days afterward. Either way, if you get to the end of the interruption (it can be from 4-13 days (not counting the transition days) you can decide to be done and just finish P3.

    These are just suggestions. Only you can decide what you can and are willing to handle.
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    I just read through the interruption section of my copy of P&I. I'm not sure how long my interruption should be, as I don't really have a set date or need a particular block of time off. Any suggestions are welcome! We go on a long weekend vacation 7/1-7/4 (vlcd25-28, and I'd actually prefer NOT to start P3 then since I have a feeling my digestive system will take a hit ).

    Let me make sure I understand the interruption plan correctly:

    1) Last injection (I assume this can actually be any day after 20 days, but less than 30 days?)
    2) 3 days of vlcd w/out hcg (per usual)
    3) third day begin P3

    4)
    a) Less than 2 weeks on interruption, resume hcg + vlcd same day
    b) More than 2 weeks on interruption, resume hcg, eat "normal" and start vlcd 3rd day (QUESTION: What does normal mean in this context? P2 but P3 calorie amount to avoid hunger?)

    Edited: because I cannot figure out why my text won't extend to the right margins! No idea why it wraps and I don't see anything in html
    Oh, the edit worked!

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    Yeahhh...I definitely want to do this interruption thing. I just looked at my first post on this thread and my goal this round was 210, not 213. So I have more to go than 0.8!

    Seems kind of quiet over here and lonely. But I feel like jumping in on Jovial might be a little nuts since you all know each other so well at this point! Just know I'm lurking, reading along everyday and trying to keep up

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    If you don't have any social engagements to work around you can decide what is best for you. It doesn't matter to the success of the diet if the interruption is 4 days or 13. The benefit of doing a longer one is that it gives you more time to practice P3 style eating, but it doesn't affect your end result either way. Then you just jump right back into injections and P2 eating without the need for reloading.

    Let me make sure I understand the interruption plan correctly:

    1) Last injection (I assume this can actually be any day after 20 days, but less than 30 days?)
    2) 3 days of vlcd w/out hcg (per usual)
    3) third day begin P3

    2) 3 days of vlcd w/out hcg (per usual)
    3) third day begin P3

    Edited: because I cannot figure out why my text won't extend to the right margins! No idea why it wraps and I don't see anything in html
    Oh, the edit worked!
    1) Last injection (I assume this can actually be any day after 20 days, but less than 30 days?)
    Any day after your 23rd dose day. The protocol says 20 effective injections. That is 23 dose days, since it takes a few days for the HCG to build up enough to be considered "effective".

    2) 3 days of vlcd w/out hcg (per usual)
    3) third day begin P3
    72 hours from your last injection. The interruption (or your P3) starts at the beginning of hour 73

    The reason your text doesn't extend sometimes is that the forum puts an ad there. Your browser or another app blocked the ad, but the space for it still appears. that only happens on the first page load. On reloads, the ad no longer appears.
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    Skeeballer, I think Leez answered all your questions. The "normal" refers to getting back on p2 eating with no reloading. As I understand if your PI is more than 14 days, it is suggested you reload. A lot of people don't want to do that, as then they would regain a few lbs and have to lose those again Good luck with whatever you decide. Personally I don't know I could do the 40 days without a PI anymore. This year, i did two PI'S. But tried to eat almost entirely (a few times off) p3 and I really think it did help with stablization. After P2, P3 eating is wonderful.

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    Hello! I am new here (p2day2). I have lost 2.2 pounds so far, but was expecting that much as I REALLY loaded June 2021 Loaders -  Junies I have genuinely not felt any hunger but today in the middle of a conversation had to sit down because I was seeing stars. Any tips? I am also taking MIC injections (separately, not mixed with HCG. Thank you!


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    Hey Dubbles,

    Good to see you around!

    I'm planning a shorter round as family is coming to town last weekend of July. So thought I'd do 23-28 days and see how it goes. Planned interruption sounds interesting.
    I enjoy coming in and reading everyone's experiences, it helps me get in the mood :-)

    Someone else who was doing hhcg pellets mentioned fewer pellets more often, or something like that, to help hunger. I need to go back and look for that post. I never got the freedom from hunger on my 2020 rounds as I did when I first did drops years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mollyuf90 View Post
    Hello! I am new here (p2day2). I have lost 2.2 pounds so far, but was expecting that much as I REALLY loaded June 2021 Loaders -  Junies I have genuinely not felt any hunger but today in the middle of a conversation had to sit down because I was seeing stars. Any tips? I am also taking MIC injections (separately, not mixed with HCG. Thank you!
    Welcome, Molly

    First weeks losses are usually pretty amazing so celebrate!

    When you say "seeing stars" do you mean you felt faint? If so, sometimes you can experience a blood sugar drop as your body adjusts to the new feeding system. The other thing that could possibly cause a blood sugar drop is stevia. It is not a common side effect, but it does happen. If you think it is a blood sugar drop, try splitting your two meals into 4 eating times. That is fine to do with the protocol, and it helps keep your blood sugar levels stable.
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    Hi Leez,

    Yes I was seeing stars. That sounds like a great solution though. Wish me luck, day 3!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mollyuf90 View Post
    Hi Leez,

    Yes I was seeing stars. That sounds like a great solution though. Wish me luck, day 3!!!


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    Definitely wishing you luck, Molly! Leez is the perfect person to answer any physical issues you might have. She is a virtual encyclopedia. A blessing to us all when having problems or have questions. I will say, when I first started back on hcg in January, the first week my body was doing some heavy detoxing. I didn't see stars but I had no energy, and a headache. Some people feel good immediately, but I think I had been eating so much sugar , it really was detox time. But after that initial phase passed, I began to feel much better. Funny, now if I order a sugar free lemonade, I c an tell when it isn't sugar free, it tastes so sweet. Being off sugar almost 6 months (except for a few indulgences now and again--not on P2) I don't really miss all that sugar. Great fruit, like ripe pineapple, tastes as sweet as candy. So, hang in there--you'll get your hcg groove going soon. I think it gets much easier after a week-10 days, you kinda settle in to the routine. As a side note, I have lost 46 lbs since January, so the protocol really works when you follow it. In P4 now, and plan on a short round to lose maybe 10-12 more mid to late August. So give it a chance, and I think you'll be happy. good luck!

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