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    Hey Guys,

    I just read an interesting article about losing lean body mass while running a calorie deficit. Here's the link http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/sta...orry-about-it/

    After reading this I feel much better about the diet and working out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Hello I am new to HCG diet and I have known it to occur only in pregnant women. I purchased couple of HCG homeopathic bottles, before I start consuming it, I would like to seek your advice on its safety on men, how safe is it for short term and long term usage? Does it create any feminine side on men.. you know what I mean. I have heard that HCG can lead to enlargement of prostrate in men, mood-swings, craving for food and hair loss,. Has any one experienced such symptoms ? lastly talking about hygiene, I also learnt that hormone for the HCG drops are derived from urine itself, hence i am bit nervous about its hygiene and I have purchased the HCG from hcgwholesaledirect.net, has any one purchased them?

    By all means I am not being disrespectful towards HCG products and the hcg users here , I just wanted to know your honest opinion and experience using this product. Kindly advice that way I can rest my fears and join this journey my self.
    The short answer is No, it does not hurt males. The longer answer is...it is used medically to help with some male genital immaturity issues as it seems to accelerate growth (only in immature cases...so don't go thinking it will make you more than you are now.) It is also used by body builders who insist on using testosterone for this purpose, as an aid to help reduce the issue with shrunken testicles that happens when one takes testosterone for long periods of time. The testes shrink due to lack of use since testosterone is being supplied to the body externally. The dose for these other uses is thousands of times more than the HCG dose for this diet so don't expect any "help" from the diet on any of these "conditions."

    Also, don't believe any comments you read about your body making HCG with homeopathic "drugs"; it just ain't so. The only way to make this stuff is in the placenta of a human fetus.

    Good luck if you decide to go with the HCG. There are a lot of success stories out there.


    As for the estrogenites invading the Cave....maybe if your husbands asked the questions you would get an answer. The Cave is here for a reason...please respect the ONLY place on this forum just for men. No hard feelings...just don't hold your breath for an answer when you invade the Man Cave.


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    Lost 30# in P2
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    My problem is a carbohydrate addiction that gets out of control after several months of maintaining my new weight. I guess the saying about the definition of insanity would be my mantra ...i.e., doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result. This time will be different....I will stay "bad grain" free and sugar free.

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    Well I'm down 21lbs ind 20 days... going pretty smoothly so far...

    I have cheated a couple times... (Mainly eating 2 tbsp of Thousand Island with the salad when I make steak... I just bought the 0 calorie Thousand Island so I didn't feel as guilty...)

    But otherwise I'm doing well on the weight-loss... its still the same as it was in the beginning, lose 2lbs every other day...


    Here's a question...

    Has anyone been injured while on this diet (severe cuts, broken bones, etc)? Does it affect heal time?

    Say its just a flesh wound, could the low calorie diet be starving your body of what you need to repair?

    Thanks.

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    Ahh the cave. This is where I need to be. I'm on round one phase 2 day 6. No cheats and down 6lbs. Goals 40. Been eating a lot of chicken with franks red hot. Just did a lean burger with onions in the patty no salt, ketchup or buns. Used lettuce and it was very filling.

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    Mornin' guys,

    Just a simple drive-by post to say hey....down 1.2 today so feeling stoked about that. Catcha all later!

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberts View Post
    The short answer is No, it does not hurt males. The longer answer is...it is used medically to help with some male genital immaturity issues as it seems to accelerate growth (only in immature cases...so don't go thinking it will make you more than you are now.) It is also used by body builders who insist on using testosterone for this purpose, as an aid to help reduce the issue with shrunken testicles that happens when one takes testosterone for long periods of time. The testes shrink due to lack of use since testosterone is being supplied to the body externally. The dose for these other uses is thousands of times more than the HCG dose for this diet so don't expect any "help" from the diet on any of these "conditions."

    Also, don't believe any comments you read about your body making HCG with homeopathic "drugs"; it just ain't so. The only way to make this stuff is in the placenta of a human fetus.

    Good luck if you decide to go with the HCG. There are a lot of success stories out there.


    As for the estrogenites invading the Cave....maybe if your husbands asked the questions you would get an answer. The Cave is here for a reason...please respect the ONLY place on this forum just for men. No hard feelings...just don't hold your breath for an answer when you invade the Man Cave.
    on behalf of the "estrognites" that "invaded" the Cave... :P My husband for one has a job that doesn't allow him much time to post derogatory comments or otherwise to people asking for a little help from those that have "been there, done that"...he's a Firefighter. I sure hope you don't get the same reaction when posting on other places on this supposed to be "friendly, HELPFUL, neighborly" site.

    Good Day sir.
    ~Mary~




    R1 beginning 7/28 LD1: 161.6
    R1 ending weight: 142.6
    R2 beginning 10/28 (146.6) +3 after two LD's
    R2/P2/11-17 (-.2) 140.6 - failed round, dang holidays!

    R3 beginning 1/8 after 2 load days: 147.6
    R3/p2/VLCD2: 145.6
    R3/p2/VLCD3: 145
    R3/p2/VLCD4: 144
    R3/p2/VLCD5: 143.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsfyredude View Post
    on behalf of the "estrognites" that "invaded" the Cave... :P My husband for one has a job that doesn't allow him much time to post derogatory comments or otherwise to people asking for a little help from those that have "been there, done that"...he's a Firefighter. I sure hope you don't get the same reaction when posting on other places on this supposed to be "friendly, HELPFUL, neighborly" site.

    Good Day sir.
    Mary,
    I just want you and your husband to know that I really appreciate your service as fire fighters!
    I am in Austin which is having devastating fires.
    I am currently working with the Disaster Relief crews helping people get back into their homes.
    Until you are a part of that, you cannot explain or understand the devastation.
    I will PM you
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    Quote Originally Posted by bengrp View Post
    Knocking on the 200# mark. I haven't been below 200 in 10 years. Also, I'm going to reduce my dosage slightly due to hunger. So far so good.
    Great job!

    I started almost the same day as you. I did not do a load, so I did my first VLCD on the 2nd. I too am knocking on 200! Started at 216.5, and am at 201.5 this morning!!!!

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    Wanted to post on here what I am doing so far.

    Started on 9/2 with first shot, and did no load. I weighed 216.5. In the first week, I lost quick on Days 1-2 (exactly 7 lbs). then it slowed a lot. I lost 1.1, .4, .4, and zero, on days 3-6. I was pretty down that I had already stalled a little. Then I woke up on Day 7 and was down 2.4 lbs! So 11.3 in first week.

    So far in week 2, I am doing well: I lost .8, .7, 1, and 1.2 so far. So grand total of 15lbs through 11 full days.

    Here is where I am deviating from protocol, just to let people know. I am eating 3 fruits a day per doctor's orders, but I have cut the apples down to 1 or 2 a day instead of all 3 times being apples. I am also using stevia out the *** (doctor sheet said limit to two packets a day), and chew a ton of sugar free gum; I am eating a little more than 100g of protein on occasion, probably closer to 125g. Yesterday I probably ate 5 oz of bison steak at lunch. I am not measuring my veggies either, so I could be going over on those (not a big deal since cukes and tomatoes have hardly any calories). I drink lots of vitamin water zero, and also use stevia drops in coffee, and sparkling water several times a day. Also I have begun making a smoothie at least once a day where I put frozen strawberries (probably 10-12 small ones) in a blender, along with probably 2 oz of almond milk, lemon juice, and 10 or so drops of lemon or orange stevia.

    I am guessing I am taking in between 600-650 calories most days, and the only exercise I am doing is about 30 minutes of walking with the dog.

    Just thought I would let people know what's working for me. I am eating 3 fruits, 2 breadsticks, 2 proteins, and 2 veggies. I have to admit, I have eaten an extra breadstick at least 3 of the days. It doesn't seem to be phasing me yet. I figure it's easier to cut things out later when I stall than to start low and have nothing to cut!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberts View Post
    As for the estrogenites invading the Cave....maybe if your husbands asked the questions you would get an answer. The Cave is here for a reason...please respect the ONLY place on this forum just for men. No hard feelings...just don't hold your breath for an answer when you invade the Man Cave.
    Yes I am a female, jumping in just this one time for ONE second..... No need to be a raging **** when she is asking for her husband. You could have just been polite instead you took a path of rudeness.... have a little tact... Enjoy your man cave..! Trust me.. the female dont want to be in here when we would have to deal with pricks.. We get enough of them everyday...

    End of opinion... never coming back.. so no need to reply!

    Thanks and have a great day!
    -Meredith-
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    3 Rounds Done- Lost 42.4 lbs!!
    Lost 68.4 lbs since Daughter was born 9/7/2010

    RD 3 was a sham! I am not counting it as a SUCCESS!!

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    It would appear the only rudeness I see is coming from those that choose to take a simple and polite comment of mine to the extreme. Nowhere was I rude or name calling nor was I aggressive and nasty as this post surly demonstrates. Some people just can't help but be nasty and find any reason to be so. I feel sorry for them and hope they can find some peace in their lives.


    A simple private message to one of the guys would have been sufficient to get a question addressed.
    I will not comment further. If the rest of the guys are OK with the intrusions then fine I won't mention it again.


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    Lost 30# in P2
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    My problem is a carbohydrate addiction that gets out of control after several months of maintaining my new weight. I guess the saying about the definition of insanity would be my mantra ...i.e., doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result. This time will be different....I will stay "bad grain" free and sugar free.

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    I hope we can get back to man cave stuff...I think it's hard to read into written posts what inflection or intent the person posting may have had...in that sense, maybe there was a misunderstanding, and I hope we can all move on. I certainly don't mind a lady coming in our cave once in a while, but it's also true we have nowhere else of our own.
    No loading except 5 Guys the night before we went VLCD. Weigh ins started on 1st day of VLCD
    So HCG started on Day 1, VLCD on Day 3
    Weight on morning of Day 3: 220.0
    Weight on morning of Day 38: 193.6 (last dose)
    Total loss: 26.4

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