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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblack View Post
    Still too early. Still a bit light headed on court. Did not play as well as I could or should. But it takes a couple days for the new diet to catch up and fuel the system. Especially since I am not pigging out on approved foods.

    On the way to tennis the old me popped in. It was an absolutely beautiful morning, I felt awesome and congratulated myself on another successful round. There! Caught it! The round is not over!! In fact the most important part has just begun.

    Finished tennis and picked up some chicken wings for my wife and I for lunch. Local chain, Pluckers. Really good. They have some awesome dry rub wings there. Ordered 15 to split. Got home and chopped up an avocado. Made a simple arugula salad dressed with avocado oil, a hit of truffle oil, white basalmic vinegar and grated Parmesan. I strongly recommend this salad. It is sooooo good. Finished a small salad and moved on to the wings. Past rounds I could have blown through 10 easily. 15 even if the moment was right. At 3 I stopped to check in and note how satisfied I was. Almost there. Still just a bit hungry. ate one more. Satisfied but can do one more. 5th wing and done. My wife stopped at 3.

    I know this sounds silly for some but this is a huge step for me. Yard work now and some meal prep for the week.


    WB, it doesn't sound silly at all! I totally get what you're saying, and pat yourself on the back, realizing the important part is about to begin. Stabilization! And good job on stopping with the wings when full!. Great job today.

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    WB.... that is the beauty of P3... we learn so much about ourselves and get amazing insights in our old selves....

    I personally do not eat big, but then can be tempted by "something nice" and when shopping i will look for "something nice" which would be on the forbidden list.... I would look at the options of what tickles my fancy, and my brain would just say... "not worth it" and that for me is such a NSV....
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    After my first full day of P3, up 1.8lbs on the scale this morning. Current weight 219.2.

    Breakfast: 2 scrambled eggs (avocado oil/butter), 2 small sausage links.
    3 hours of tennis in between
    Lunch: 5 chicken wings with a little ranch dressing. Arugula salad dressed with white basalmic, avocado oil parmesan and avocado chunks
    Yardwork in between plus a lot of meal prep past dinner. Didn't get off of my feet until 7:30 (other than the time it took to slowly eat my dinner)
    Dinner: Beef short ribs, dry brined and smoked. Maybe 4oz of meat. But very rich. Served with 1/2 avocado and sauteed onions and peppers (avocado oil)
    Dessert: made a batch of fat bombs. Sampled 2.
    During the course of the day drank a bottle of red wine plus a lot of water.

    Last night. very sleepy but woke up around 10:30 with nausea. Still feeling a little off this morning. So glad I didn't overeat. I would have been worse off. Beef ribs are extremely rich. Maybe not a good idea for first day of P3.

    Not sweating today's gains. The tennis courts I play on Sunday's are very hard and I really feel it in my back. I probably have an extra pound of water due to inflammation. The rest is general gains I always see during the first days of transition. I was looking back at my thread from 2019 where I actually did pay attention in P3 and it looks like when I would eat heavy beef and drink red wine, the weight would creep up but when I would cut out the wine and eat seafood during the week it would come back down. Now that I will be eating less it will be easier to manage.

    Grilled onions and fajita meat for lunch and grilled tuna for dinner with salad. No breakfast.

    Until tomorrow.

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    I would gladly eat at your house any day. And I make a variation of that salad myself. Though I haven't used truffle oil. Might be worth getting, huh?

    Great balanced attitude about the gain. I so appreciate that in you.

    I just mentioned this in Yvonne's thread, but one thing I've found super helpful is to start digestive enzymes in P3 to help with the increased fats. I'm pretty sure my gall bladder gets super sluggish in P2 without any practice with fats for six weeks, and the added support makes a difference for me. I've been trying to not overdo added fats, but I do loves me some fatty meats and haven't shied away. Also haven't experienced that funky tummy that can come from overmuch fat.

    I'm a little jelly you're drinking wine and doing fine with it. My time will come, no doubt. . . .

    Oh, one last thought, FWIW: my doc recommends Celtic Sea Salt, and when I've felt light headed or woozy during HCG I've found adding some extra to my foods helps alleviate it. Could be an electrolyte issue? But you know your body best.

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    Thanks DMM. Just go easy on the truffle oil. A very little goes a long way but really goes well with the arugula.

    I didn't mention it in my post this morning, mainly because to me it almost goes without saying but the wine was most certainly a factor in the weight increases the last 2 mornings. But I will continue to drink wine, just on weekends only. I never have been much of a weekday drinker anyway.

    Thanks for the reco on celtic sea salt. Off protocol I season beef with coarse sea salt to dry brine. Used season salts on seafood. I do not shy away from salts for the reasons you mentioned. My dizziness could be factor of lowered electrolytes for sure. I would say that low calories is the biggest factor but lack of electrolytes is in the mix as well. Moving forward that will not be an issue so all good on that front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlirtyFlo View Post
    WB.... that is the beauty of P3... we learn so much about ourselves and get amazing insights in our old selves....

    I personally do not eat big, but then can be tempted by "something nice" and when shopping i will look for "something nice" which would be on the forbidden list.... I would look at the options of what tickles my fancy, and my brain would just say... "not worth it" and that for me is such a NSV....
    Well said, Yvonne, love non scale victories!

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    WB, Thanks for keeping us posted on your foods and how it is going. It is helpful to you, to log your progress, but it sure is interesting and helps all of us. Many who don't jump in on forums, still read them regularly--and I'm sure they are learning thru these forums. I know I sure do. Good luck this week!

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    thank you dubbles

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    Tuesday update

    But here is a recap first:

    LDW: 218
    Friday: 219.2
    Sat: 216.4
    Sun: 217.4
    Mon: 219.2

    And today: 217.2

    No breakfast yesterday. Lunch was some leftover fajita meat (maybe 3.5-4 oz) over some grilled onions, peppers and mushrooms and some grated cheddar jack cheese on the top. Ate the entire portion but it wasn't big to begin with. I was extremely hungry in the afternoon and especially when I got home to cook. I had to eat something so had a few cubes of mancheco cheese and some black olives. Cooked up a tuna steak (about 6oz) for dinner on the grill. Topped with homemade chimichurri sauce and parmesan. Served with an arugula salad (no avocado). 2 fat bombs for desert. Also, had a glass of wine leftover from the day before and had that with dinner.

    Just not enough food overall yesterday and was too hungry. So skipping breakfast might not be the best plan. For now at least.

    Today:

    Breakfast: 2 eggs fried over medium in avocado oil/butter. 2 small links of sausage.
    Lunch: sauteed onions/peppers/mushrooms and either cubed leftover ribeye or beef ribs (either are about a 4 oz portion)
    Dinner: 5 leftover chicken wings from Sunday and some guacamole.

    Playing tennis tonight so I might go with the beef ribs for extra fat.

    At this point I don't want to pick apart and explain away the gains and losses. Just want to put the facts out. I am experiencing the first week swings but I am within 2lbs of LDW so all is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblack View Post
    Tuesday update

    But here is a recap first:

    LDW: 218
    Friday: 219.2
    Sat: 216.4
    Sun: 217.4
    Mon: 219.2

    And today: 217.2

    No breakfast yesterday. Lunch was some leftover fajita meat (maybe 3.5-4 oz) over some grilled onions, peppers and mushrooms and some grated cheddar jack cheese on the top. Ate the entire portion but it wasn't big to begin with. I was extremely hungry in the afternoon and especially when I got home to cook. I had to eat something so had a few cubes of mancheco cheese and some black olives. Cooked up a tuna steak (about 6oz) for dinner on the grill. Topped with homemade chimichurri sauce and parmesan. Served with an arugula salad (no avocado). 2 fat bombs for desert. Also, had a glass of wine leftover from the day before and had that with dinner.

    Just not enough food overall yesterday and was too hungry. So skipping breakfast might not be the best plan. For now at least.

    Today:

    Breakfast: 2 eggs fried over medium in avocado oil/butter. 2 small links of sausage.
    Lunch: sauteed onions/peppers/mushrooms and either cubed leftover ribeye or beef ribs (either are about a 4 oz portion)
    Dinner: 5 leftover chicken wings from Sunday and some guacamole.

    Playing tennis tonight so I might go with the beef ribs for extra fat.

    At this point I don't want to pick apart and explain away the gains and losses. Just want to put the facts out. I am experiencing the first week swings but I am within 2lbs of LDW so all is good.

    Sounds like to me you are doing great WB! I enjoy breakfast on P3, a lot. Just have to get used to not having toast with the eggs and sausage. You are expending a lot of calories, no wonder you get hungry . Maybe a few bites of something in between meals will help with hunger.

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    I was sitting on my butt at the office all day so not many calories going out. But I am really focusing on smaller portions in my meals with no snacking in between. Also, the no breakfast thing is probably not the best idea. I have a jar of olives at the office. Just had one and it holds me well. Olives are not something you want to impulsively eat one after another but are satisfying. In the past I would have pork skins and would snack on that but you are talking about a lot of calories even though is is P3 and keto friendly. My daily calorie intake now verses past P3 has to be drastic at this point. I am sure I will close the gap a bit but no way I will get too close.

    The most important thing is that my focus is on what, when, how and how much I am eating and how that affects what the scale confirms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonblack View Post
    I was sitting on my butt at the office all day so not many calories going out. But I am really focusing on smaller portions in my meals with no snacking in between. Also, the no breakfast thing is probably not the best idea. I have a jar of olives at the office. Just had one and it holds me well. Olives are not something you want to impulsively eat one after another but are satisfying. In the past I would have pork skins and would snack on that but you are talking about a lot of calories even though is is P3 and keto friendly. My daily calorie intake now verses past P3 has to be drastic at this point. I am sure I will close the gap a bit but no way I will get too close.

    The most important thing is that my focus is on what, when, how and how much I am eating and how that affects what the scale confirms.
    You got the right thinking going. I'd be careful of too few calories, tho. Your body holds on when it thinks it is starving, too.

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