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    Bacteriostatic Water

    Things have sure changed since my last round. I have the HCG, but now I need Bacteriostatic Water, an sterile vial, and mixing needle. I used to get those from Missouri Medical Supply, but they are apparently no longer in business. I can't even find bach water on Amazon. Where are others getting their supplies, and is there a source where I don't have to buy in bulk? Or pay an outrageous amount? Thanks for your help.

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    Try Formagenix.net. You can buy single bottles there.
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    Thank you, Leez. I'll check them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MLZ View Post
    Things have sure changed since my last round. I have the HCG, but now I need Bacteriostatic Water, an sterile vial, and mixing needle. I used to get those from Missouri Medical Supply, but they are apparently no longer in business. I can't even find bach water on Amazon. Where are others getting their supplies, and is there a source where I don't have to buy in bulk? Or pay an outrageous amount? Thanks for your help.
    So did you ever find a source for all those things -- not just bacteriostatic water, but....all of it? I'm currently looking for the same stuff you were -- mixing needles with syringes, injection needles, amber vials, and bacteriostatic water...all of it

    And I'm not even completely sure I know what to get for 'mixing needles with syringes' -- like, what needle length do I get...1.5" or longer, like 4"....???

    If you have sources for all those things, please let me know.
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    Check out the formagenix site. They have all the stuff you need in kits, and you can even configure the kits as you like if one of their packages is not what you want. I've used their kits several times, and the quality an value is good.

    Basically, you want a half inch needle somewhere between 29 and 31 gauge. It can be a bit shorter, and the higher the gauge number, the finer the needle. A finer needle logically seems desirable, but the thinner it gets the more likely it is to bend, so you will waste a couple during the round. I found 29 or 30 worked well for me.

    You don't really need an amber vial. A clear one is fine since it will be sitting in a dark refrigerator most of the time. Or you could wrap it in tin foil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    Check out the formagenix site. They have all the stuff you need in kits, and you can even configure the kits as you like if one of their packages is not what you want. I've used their kits several times, and the quality an value is good.

    Basically, you want a half inch needle somewhere between 29 and 31 gauge. It can be a bit shorter, and the higher the gauge number, the finer the needle. A finer needle logically seems desirable, but the thinner it gets the more likely it is to bend, so you will waste a couple during the round. I found 29 or 30 worked well for me.

    You don't really need an amber vial. A clear one is fine since it will be sitting in a dark refrigerator most of the time. Or you could wrap it in tin foil.
    Thanks, Leez!

    So the needle length I'm wondering about isn't the daily injection needle...it's the 'mixing needle' -- it seems too short for a vial to only be 1.5" in length, but that is the length I see sold at several hCG supply sites...like, won't it be too short to get to the bottom of the mixing vial, at only 1.5" in length...?? That's the thing I'm wondering about.

    I suppose if I figure out how tall a typical mixing vial is, that would settle the question, but I don't know how to find that info. Guesstimating a 6 ml vial is what I need, and I have no idea how tall that is....any idea?

    Thanks again for the reply!
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    You generally will need a 10ml mixing vial. The mixing needle length doesn't matter, because you can up-end the HCG vial to suck it all out. The standard mixing needle is long enough to work.

    Be sure to check mixing instructions on the forum. You want to mix at a minimum in a 1:2 ratio. (for instance 5000iu HCG with 10ml bacteriostatic water, or 2000iu with 4ml water) Most suppliers will instruct you to mix at a 1:1 ratio, which make the mix too potent, harder to adjust, and less accurate.

    If I'm using 2000iu vials of HCG, I like to mix with 8ml water in the 10ml mixing vial. (1:4 ratio, which is the formula Dr. Simeons used) It makes it really easy to adjust dose if needed, and dosing is more accurate at higher ratios because less is left in the needle. Some also think that the extra water helps the HCG disperse more efficiently in your tissues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    You generally will need a 10ml mixing vial. The mixing needle length doesn't matter, because you can up-end the HCG vial to suck it all out. The standard mixing needle is long enough to work.

    Be sure to check mixing instructions on the forum. You want to mix at a minimum in a 1:2 ratio. (for instance 5000iu HCG with 10ml bacteriostatic water, or 2000iu with 4ml water) Most suppliers will instruct you to mix at a 1:1 ratio, which make the mix too potent, harder to adjust, and less accurate.

    If I'm using 2000iu vials of HCG, I like to mix with 8ml water in the 10ml mixing vial. (1:4 ratio, which is the formula Dr. Simeons used) It makes it really easy to adjust dose if needed, and dosing is more accurate at higher ratios because less is left in the needle. Some also think that the extra water helps the HCG disperse more efficiently in your tissues.
    OHHHHHhhhhh thank you, Leez! That makes sense.

    So is your calculation for using the 2000 IU of hCG for dry (powder) hCG? I assume so, as Simeons used powdered I believe.

    I'm using liquid hCG -- the Hucog brand....the 2,000 IU vials.

    And since I don't know about any other liquid hCG brand (no idea if there are any others), would the mixing instructions for all liquid hCG be the same, or is Hucog somehow different? I assume the mixing instructions for all liquid hCG will be the same...but I have no idea if that's the case.

    So, what would be the amount of bacteriostatic water to add to liquid hCG -- how would I use your instructions with liquid hCG (Hucog specifically)...?

    Thanks again for all your help!
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    Liquid HCG always has 1 ml water already mixed in, so mixing instructions should be the same regardless of brand. You have to account for that in your calculations, but thats the only difference. So instead of adding, say, 8ml water to the HCG, you would add a total of 7ml for HCG that is already liquified.

    So using the liquified HCG just means you have one less step in mixing, as you don't have to dissolve the powder before you withdraw the HCG.

    If you mix your 2000iu HCG with 8ml (total) bacteriostatic water, the dose you pull on your syringe will be:
    150iu = .6 or 60
    125iu = .5 or 50
    .
    There is a formula that allows you to check your mixing math and dosage regardless of how you mix your HCG;
    https://hcgdietinfo.com/formula-calculate-hcg-dose/
    Always always check the math for yourself.
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    My recent HCG round was with DietDoc. Our site owner has generously arranged for me to earn a small fee if you use my DietDoc or Nu Image Medical link to order your Hcg and supplies. (All HDI site discounts and coupons apply.) A full review of my experience and how the round progressed: my Diet Doc review and my Hcg coaching blog here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    Liquid HCG always has 1 ml water already mixed in, so mixing instructions should be the same regardless of brand. You have to account for that in your calculations, but thats the only difference. So instead of adding, say, 8ml water to the HCG, you would add a total of 7ml for HCG that is already liquified.

    So using the liquified HCG just means you have one less step in mixing, as you don't have to dissolve the powder before you withdraw the HCG.

    If you mix your 2000iu HCG with 8ml (total) bacteriostatic water, the dose you pull on your syringe will be:
    150iu = .6 or 60
    125iu = .5 or 50
    .
    There is a formula that allows you to check your mixing math and dosage regardless of how you mix your HCG;
    https://hcgdietinfo.com/formula-calculate-hcg-dose/
    Always always check the math for yourself.
    Thank you so so much, Leez!

    I think you just solved all my questions in this one place. You are a blessing.

    So grateful. Can't thank you enough! <3
    Looking for info on the famed "Chicken Thigh Day" (CTD)? Here it is: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16708

    Wondering how you can hold your loss after the Chicken Thigh Day, or any correction day? Try the "Post-Correction Day Strategy" (PCDS): http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums/entry.php?b=16711

    I'm using "MyNetDiary Pro"...I highly recommend it. Huge, ACCURATE Food Database! It's at http://www.mynetdiary.com

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