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    General concerns/side effects

    Hi All,

    A newbie here and I know this post could have maybe gone in the side effects section, but these are more general questions from me. Just a bit of a background. I've done HCG once close to 8 years back or so and it worked, I honestly don't recall the aftermath as far as how long it was kept off and anything afterwards. I by no means is overweight nor obese nor was I back then either. Think I lost about 10-12 lbs I want to say and i was taking drops of the real HCG that I mixed and was just doing sublingual as I am super afraid of needles.

    I just recently moved and was doing great around the holidays but after the move at the end of January, having a house full of boxes for weeks on end and being tired, we naturally just ordered food and you know how that goes, needless to say probably put on about 10 lbs in the past 3 months and it makes me feel a certain way that I do not like. I work out frequently and I mean I do a lot of HIIT exercises about 5-6 days a week. I was a college athlete and til this day am in very good shape, but eating is definitely my Achilles heel, I love food and sweets, but when I get motivated and determined I'm on a whole different level.

    I wanted to just jump start this again and things have definitely change a bit. HCG isn't as readily available but did obtain a vial from diet doc. Now as I'm researching and doing some reading up again (which i probably should have done before buying it) there are some major concerns and questions lingering and mostly are around the topic of side effects and any long term effects.

    I also realize coming to an HCG forum and raising some of these concerns may not be my best route as I would think everyone on this forum would be an advocate, but would appreciate some feedback as objectively as they can be which may be difficult.

    I'm seeing a lot of articles where the FDA has explicitly said they do not recommend using HCG for dieting. Logically if you think about it, injecting yourself with hormones (however natural it may be in pregnant women) seems weird. Was there any red flags to anyone if you just took a step back and thought about that? Also reading HCG may cause blood clots, read something with cancer (of course I immediately freaked) think it was ovarian or something to that affect and also can cause A-fib. Also hair loss and not sure if that's actually due to the restrictive caloric intake since your body really isn't getting the nutrients it needs or from HCG.

    Just wanted to start an open discussion and bringing up some things I have seen and please do not take this post as some attack on the diet, but I just want to be informed and I don't need cult like answers saying it's the best thing ever with no side effects or potential harm. I'd like to keep this honest and informative. I probably will most likely go through with the round, but just wanted to get a little bit more info before I really delved in. I was going to start tomorrow, but I do have my annual check up at the obgyn and no need to start taking this only to have a pregnancy test show up positive so may delay it a week.

    Thanks in advance for any insight

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    You have valid concerns. Its a serious thing to inject anything into your body. Here are my thoughts on HCG side effects.

    There are some common side effects that you can experience during a round of HCG.

    Constipation and sleep problems are the usual ones. A few people report temporary hair thinning. HCG can cause changes in your cycle in timing and intensity, which makes sense because it is a pregnancy hormone. This resolves after you are off the HCG.

    Nutrient deficits are not really an issue, since you are only on this protocol for a short time, and as fat is burned stored nutrients trapped in the fat cells are released, so there's really not a need for vitamin supplements during the protocol.

    The amount of HCG used for the protocol is a very tiny amount compared to what floods the body during pregnancy. It has a track record of safety for people with all kinds of conditions, and we've seen that played out in the forums over the years.

    I was prescribed HCG by a medical doctor, and one that used it herself. That said a lot to me about safety. Since the diet information is free and there isn't a lot of money to be made off of it, there has been no significant investment in follow up studies. That means none of the claims of help or harm have been clinically tested other than in the original writings of Dr. Simeons. So you have to take that into account when you consider any warnings you come across.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    You have valid concerns. Its a serious thing to inject anything into your body. Here are my thoughts on HCG side effects.

    There are some common side effects that you can experience during a round of HCG.

    Constipation and sleep problems are the usual ones. A few people report temporary hair thinning. HCG can cause changes in your cycle in timing and intensity, which makes sense because it is a pregnancy hormone. This resolves after you are off the HCG.

    Nutrient deficits are not really an issue, since you are only on this protocol for a short time, and as fat is burned stored nutrients trapped in the fat cells are released, so there's really not a need for vitamin supplements during the protocol.

    The amount of HCG used for the protocol is a very tiny amount compared to what floods the body during pregnancy. It has a track record of safety for people with all kinds of conditions, and we've seen that played out in the forums over the years.

    I was prescribed HCG by a medical doctor, and one that used it herself. That said a lot to me about safety. Since the diet information is free and there isn't a lot of money to be made off of it, there has been no significant investment in follow up studies. That means none of the claims of help or harm have been clinically tested other than in the original writings of Dr. Simeons. So you have to take that into account when you consider any warnings you come across.

    Thanks for your feedback Leez. I know after losing excess weight I always feel much better. I went the other day for a check-up, everything was good, blood pressure was down--perfectly where it should be. I keep thinking how unhealthy and stressful for my body to be carrying an extra 35-40 lbs around--like carrying a 3 year old , 4 year old child all day everyday. Not healthy.

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    I was also introduced to HCG by a medical doctor, who continues to support the protocol even though she can no longer prescribe it. Which, she is very unhappy about. I am not sure what the FDA used to make this determination, but I believe they got this one wrong. Phen phen, with all its dangers and side effects, is still legal to prescribe but HCG is not? That makes no sense. I am sure that there are some people who could have experienced any of the terrible side effects listed; however, my guess is that those are likely to be those who did not have proper guidance on number of injections, adjusting dose amount, waiting between rounds. how long to follow the 500 calories, etc. and/or perhaps in conjunction with the use of phen phen for hunger issues instead of coaching on dose adjustments. So many do not fully understand the finer points and therefore, people have issues and end up here for coaching. Of course itís possible for someone to have followed the protocol correctly and had proper dose etc since there are always outliers, but that could also be due to pre-existing conditions that were unknown prior to using HCG. Without long term studies and data, itís all an unknown and you have to make your own determination on whether to proceed. As someone with thyroid issues that continue to crop up and bring rapid weight gain with it, itís the only thing that works and taking the chance on it was a last resort and Hail Mary that paid off when I was at a point where I was desperate just to feel better. Not even look better, just feel better. Happily, it did both and continues to be a god send when I have to return to it. YMMV and just like anything else it is a personal decision/choice that one makes with the information they have available at the time. For me personally, I have (thankfully) not experience any of the serious issues cited and do not know anyone else who has either.

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    I agree completely MrsWoody, well said.

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    I try to keep in mind all the things the FDA and other government agencies have been wrong about.

    Phen-phen is a great example, MrsWoody.

    Anyone remember the food pyramid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leez View Post
    I try to keep in mind all the things the FDA and other government agencies have been wrong about.

    Phen-phen is a great example, MrsWoody.

    Anyone remember the food pyramid?
    Agreed, Leez. With all the drugs that get advertised on tv multiple times a day with the laundry list of side effects, and those are allowed and even endorsed. one has to wonder just how the FDA came to the conclusion that HCG should be at the top of the outlaw list. Not to go all conspiracy theory here, but if one of the big drug companies could mass market and monetize it, would we be having this discussion? General concerns/side effects

    The food pyramid is another great example. The FDA is there for a reason and certainly has done some good things/made some decisions to help protect people, but itís definitely not infallible either.

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