One more thing I forgot......the Camelbak Elixir tablets were designed to be used in the Camelbak system. I have had zero problem using them in my 240Z H2O bottles.
In the summer heat I had always lived on Gatorade then Propel. With the HCG P2 and P3 I wasn't sure what I was going to do. Then a patient of my husband's told him about Camelback Elixir tablets. I ordered the Lemon/Lime tablets from Amazon and tried them at a four day very hot music festival, then golfing and hiking. They are perfect, I never felt drained or sick. Plus, the best part is they are <1gm Carbohydrate and NO Sugar. I am on P3 so I know they are fine but probably not for P2 because of the Sucralose. I haven't tried the orange flavored. Those tablets also have caffiene, B vitamins and sodium.
Following is a comparison between Camelbak Elixir tablets and Propel ingredients......unfortunately Propel has started adding High Fructose Corn Syrup
Camelbak Elixir tablets. Lemon/Lime:
* Nutritional Facts: 10 Calories, 1 g carbohydrates, 100% Vitamin C, 4% Calcium, 4% Magnesium, 71% Manganese, 2% Chloride, 17% Sodium, 2% Potassium
* Ingredients: Citric acid, sorbitol, natural flavors, polyethylene glycol, acesulfame potassium, Other Ingredients: Sodium Bicarbonate, Natural flavors, Sodium Carbonate, Polyethylene Glycol, Sodium Benzote, Acesulfame Potassium, Sucralose.
Nutritional Facts:10 Calories, 200% Vitamin C, 50% Riboflavin, 25% Niacin, 125% Vitamin B6, 50% Vitamin B12, 50% Biotin, 25% Panthenoic Acid, 336 mg sodium, 125 mg potassium, 10 mg taurine, 70 mg Caffeine, 30 mg Inositol, 25 mg Glucoronolactone, 25 mg Guarana (22% caffeine) (seed) Sodium Bicarbonate, Natural flavors, Sodium Carbonate, Polyethylene Glycol, Sodium Benzote, Acesulfame Potassium, Sucralose
WATER, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, CITRIC ACID, SODIUM HEXAMETAPHOSPHATE (TO PROTECT FLAVOR), NATURAL FLAVOR, POTASSIUM SORBATE (PRESERVES FRESHNESS), ASCORBIC ACID (VITAMIN C), SODIUM CITRATE, POTASSIUM CITRATE, SUCRALOSE, ACESULFAME POTASSIUM, NIACINAMIDE (VITAMIN B3), CALCIUM DISODIUM EDTA (TO PROTECT FLAVOR), VITAMIN E ACETATE, CALCIUM PANTOTHENATE (VITAMIN B5), PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE (VITAMIN B6)
These are full of nasty chemicals and cannot be good for you. Water with a lemon squeezed into it would be a much healthier alternative?
Concerns centre on the safety of E211, known as sodium benzoate, a preservative used for decades by the £74bn global carbonated drinks industry. Sodium benzoate derives from benzoic acid. It occurs naturally in berries, but is used in large quantities to prevent mould in soft drinks such as Sprite, Oasis and Dr Pepper. It is also added to pickles and sauces. Sodium benzoate has already been the subject of concern about cancer because when mixed with the additive vitamin C in soft drinks, it causes benzene, a carcinogenic substance. A Food Standards Agency survey of benzene in drinks last year found high levels in four brands which were removed from sale.
Sorbitol is a natural laxative and occurs in pears, prunes and other fruits. In fact sorbitol solution is sold as a laxative through pharmacies (Sorbilax - Pharmacia & Upjohn). Sorbitol is also thought to be a cause of Irritable Bowel Syndrome (2). Most sugar-free products carry warnings like: Excess consumption can have a laxative effect.However, the packs are so small that reading them is difficult, and more importantly the term excess usage is not explained or quantified. Is one pack an excess?
Acesulfame Potassium (K) was approved for use by the FDA as a safe artificial sweetener in July, l988. It is a derivative of acetoacetic acid. Unfortunately, several potential problems associated with the use of acesulfame have been raised. They are based largely on animal studies since testing on humans remains limited. The findings showed the following: Acesulfame K stimulates insulin secretion in a dose dependent fashion thereby possibly aggravating reactive hypoglycemia ("low blood sugar attacks"). Acesulfame K apparently produced lung tumors, breast tumors, rare types of tumors of other organs (such as the thymus gland), several forms of leukemia and chronic respiratory disease in several rodent studies, even when less than maximum doses were given. According to the Center for Science in the Public Interest, it was petitioned on August 29, l988 for a stay of approval by the FDA because of "significant doubt" about its safety.
A lot of the controversy surrounding sucralose stems from the fact that it was discovered while trying to create a new insecticide. The claim that it is made from sugar is a misconception about the final product. According to the book Sweet Deception, sucralose is made when sugar is treated with trityl chloride, acetic anhydride, hydrogen chlorine, thionyl chloride, and methanol in the presence of dimethylformamide, 4-methylmorpholine, toluene, methyl isobutyl ketone, acetic acid, benzyltriethlyammonium chloride, and sodium methoxide, making it unlike anything found in nature. The Splenda Web site even states that "although sucralose has a structure like sugar and a sugar-like taste, it is not natural." The product Splenda is also not actually calorie-free. Sucralose does have calories, but because it is 600 times sweeter than sugar, very small amounts are needed to achieve the desired sweetness. The first two ingredients in Splenda are dextrose and maltodextrin, which are used to increase bulk and are carbohydrates that are not free of calories. One cup of Splenda contains 96 calories and 32 grams of carbohydrates, which is substantial for people with diabetes but unnoticed due to the label claiming that it's a no calorie sweetener.
The name sucralose is another misleading factor. The suffix -ose is used to name sugars, not additives. Sucralose sounds very close to sucrose, table sugar, and can be confusing for consumers. A more accurate name for the structure of sucralose was purposed. The name would have been trichlorogalactosucrose, but the FDA did not believe that it was necessary to use this so sucralose was allowed. The presence of chlorine is thought to be the most dangerous component of sucralose. Chlorine is considered a carcinogen and has been used in poisonous gas, disinfectants, pesticides, and plastics. The digestion and absorption of sucralose is not clear due to a lack of long-term studies on humans. The majority of studies were done on animals for short lengths of time. The alleged symptoms associated with sucralose are gastrointestinal problems (bloating, gas, diarrhea, nausea), skin irritations (rash, hives, redness, itching, swelling), wheezing, cough, runny nose, chest pains, palpitations, anxiety, anger, moods swings, depression, and itchy eyes. The only way to be sure of the safety of sucralose is to have long-term studies on humans done. Does Sucralose Help with Weight Loss? According to Consumers' Research Magazine "There is no clear-cut evidence that sugar substitutes are useful in weight reduction. On the contrary, there is some evidence that these substances may stimulate appetite."
This is something I drink to hydrate myself on very very hot days when I am sweating alot and I mean alot. I do not rehydrate with just water or even salt tablets which I have tried. Even with added lemon.
I agree with your discussion of the ingredients but when the choice is heat stroke/exhaustion or electrolyte replacement I have little doubt which to choose. But the very good thing is I now have BPH free bottles to carry with me hiking and on the golf course. Also, as I have said many times after doing exhaustive research on the things we actually put in our bodies we might as well have a diet of cardboard.