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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbles View Post
    Hi Deanna, I'm a little late to threads today. Good job on stabilizing well. And you're really eating well, i suppose. P3 foods are wonderful. Yes, I do plan on doing another round, hopefully a short round, and may do this next time on pellets. We'll see. Are you saying the end of April will be 70 days since you started P3 last? So if you did another round from end of April to May, you would be ready for Memorial Day weekend for sure, right? Leez will advise I'm sure, but sounds like a plan to me. Not sure exactly how long I'll do P3, I'm thinking 4 weeks--with adding a few carbs in for a week, , then I may just cycle back to do a short P2 round so I can hopefully lose 10-15 and be done with short round of P2 by May, or by end of 1st week in May. We'll see, that is going a little rogue, in that I don't know if I'll do the 3 weeks of P4. Depends on how I feel at the time, and how P3 is working out. I'd just like to lose another 10-15 lbs before pool opens. Ours opens a week before Memorial Day. We'll see.

    Have a great weekend! And keep us posted on how you are doing, and plans!
    Thanks and yes the foods are wonderful. How many pounds total have you lost so far? Are you wanting to get down to 150lbs? I would like to get down to 165lbs. I can’t wait for summer to get here too, for swimming and bbq. Family time is the best! ❤️
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    Jan 2021, Round 3, starting weight 208 lbs., last dosage weight 188 lbs.
    Jun 2021, Round 4, starting weight 198 lbs., current weight 180 lbs.

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    Good Monday Morning Deanna! Over the round, which ended up being a 40 day round and had 2 weeks of PI added to it, I lost 28.8 lbs. Got down to 178.2 My goal is to get to 160 with next p2, hopefully. I really only want to do a 23-30 day round next time. Seriously. And I would like to have it done before our pool opens up. Which is before Memorial Day. Last year because of Covoid the community pool didn't open, but they have sent out notifications that they plan to this year. I really missed being out in the sunshine as much last year. I like to flower garden a little, but with my bad knee--not as much as I used to. Pool exercise is really gentle on knees.
    When did you decide to do your next P2, or have you set the dates yet?

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    Sorry for getting back so late. I am still maintaining and I plan to come back on May 16. I have been sticking with mainly fruits and vegetables smoothies. I have been focusing on cleansing my liver. I have better energy now and have gotten away from caffeine completely. Congratulations on your weight-loss!!! Yes, there is nothing better than pool time with Mr. Sunshine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna Jane View Post
    Sorry for getting back so late. I am still maintaining and I plan to come back on May 16. I have been sticking with mainly fruits and vegetables smoothies. I have been focusing on cleansing my liver. I have better energy now and have gotten away from caffeine completely. Congratulations on your weight-loss!!! Yes, there is nothing better than pool time with Mr. Sunshine!
    Great to hear from you Deanna! And happy to hear you aredoing so well with maintenance!. Seems you have put a plan in motion and are on track to see thru. I actually cycled back to P2 after completing my P3 and a few days of P4. I just want to be done with it--and it's going well, but my mind isn't in it as well as sometimes. I just want to be back to P3, you can certainly enjoy life there! Keep us posted once in a while!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbles View Post
    Great to hear from you Deanna! And happy to hear you aredoing so well with maintenance!. Seems you have put a plan in motion and are on track to see thru. I actually cycled back to P2 after completing my P3 and a few days of P4. I just want to be done with it--and it's going well, but my mind isn't in it as well as sometimes. I just want to be back to P3, you can certainly enjoy life there! Keep us posted once in a while!
    Hey there everyone! Just an update I have gained 6 pounds during maintenance!!! So my morning weight is 194lbs. During this time I have been doing fruit and veggie smoothies, trying to cleanse liver. I am getting closer to starting back in May on the 16th.
    My medications that I am taking for hypothyroidism is Cytomel.

    Jan 2021, Round 3, starting weight 208 lbs., last dosage weight 188 lbs.
    Jun 2021, Round 4, starting weight 198 lbs., current weight 180 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna Jane View Post
    Hey there everyone! Just an update I have gained 6 pounds during maintenance!!! So my morning weight is 194lbs. During this time I have been doing fruit and veggie smoothies, trying to cleanse liver. I am getting closer to starting back in May on the 16th.
    Thanks for checking in Deanna! I'll be on P2 at that time too, but only for a bit, I'm doing another planned interruption--going out of town this weekend and maybe next. Good to hear from you!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbles View Post
    Thanks for checking in Deanna! I'll be on P2 at that time too, but only for a bit, I'm doing another planned interruption--going out of town this weekend and maybe next. Good to hear from you!!
    Good to hear from you as well! Glad to know we will be doing this together again. What is your weight down to now? You have had some amazing results, just curious if the body is still releasing as good? I can’t wait to start up again, I am so excited! My body is starting to adjust to this Medical Medium Anthony Williams Protocol for a liver cleanse, because I have started losing weight. My liver has been fatty for years and to clean it up makes a world of a difference in losing weight. I have lost 1 pound a day for the last 4 days and now my morning weight is 192 lbs! My energy level is through the roof and I have been doing morning walks.

    I will need to get with Leez regarding the intramuscular B-12 lipo shots prescription my doctor prescribed for me to take when I start up again. Didn’t you do them too?
    My medications that I am taking for hypothyroidism is Cytomel.

    Jan 2021, Round 3, starting weight 208 lbs., last dosage weight 188 lbs.
    Jun 2021, Round 4, starting weight 198 lbs., current weight 180 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna Jane View Post
    Good to hear from you as well! Glad to know we will be doing this together again. What is your weight down to now? You have had some amazing results, just curious if the body is still releasing as good? I can’t wait to start up again, I am so excited! My body is starting to adjust to this Medical Medium Anthony Williams Protocol for a liver cleanse, because I have started losing weight. My liver has been fatty for years and to clean it up makes a world of a difference in losing weight. I have lost 1 pound a day for the last 4 days and now my morning weight is 192 lbs! My energy level is through the roof and I have been doing morning walks.

    I will need to get with Leez regarding the intramuscular B-12 lipo shots prescription my doctor prescribed for me to take when I start up again. Didn’t you do them too?



    Hi Deanna! Great news about the liver cleanse. Is that a "food Protocol" or some kind of supplement? Curious, I know I have had a fatty liver dx as well. I say that--they say my liver enzymes are high? Is that the same thing? Yes I have done the injections this year with hcg, but not intramuscular. When I do the lipo shot it is supposed to be intramuscular, tho--I just do in my thigh. We've been out of town since Friday, just got back late last nite--did not eat strictly on P3, had a 1/2 baked potato one night, a piece of cheesecake, a grilled cheese sadwich, a piece of pizza one night--other carbs several times, but always felt I was in control with not large portions. Got home, weighed this morning and was up exactly to the oz 2 lb above last dose weight. LDW was 168.4, and it was 170.4 this morning. Not doing a steak day, I am right at the wt to just eat correctly for a few days, and I think it will go fine. I only did a short P2 round, so am going to go back to P2 to complete a full 40 day round--not exactly sure when this PI will be over. Have been thinking to do a full 2 weeks before finishing up for around 12-14 days of vlc. Then I expect to be on P3 for the summer, and gradually add a few p4 things at special times. We'll see how that goes. To finish this round I am going to do the pellets, instead of shots. See how that goes! Good to hear from you, and good luck with you start!

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    Hi Dubbles, I hope you had a Happy Mother’s Day! Yes, the liver cleanse is a food protocol and if you are wanting to help cleanse your liver on a faster pace, than you can add in supplements. I did both to rid myself of psoriasis that just started developing over the past year. I never had it before in my life. By doing the protocol it has helped clear it up and the ringing in my ears (tinnitus) has started to subside. It has been an amazing journey! I am getting ready to prepare for the HCG Diet round 4, which starts on May 16, I am so ready to lose another 10-20 pounds. I hope I do better on this round and that the immunity is gone.

    Hello Leez, how have you been doing? I hope all is well with you. I hope you had a Happy Mother’s Day too. I just wanted you to know that I am preparing for my next round. Leez do you think that since I did better on the very low dose the last time, that I should start out on 100 iu’s instead of 125 iu’s? Also, I have the Lipo-Mino-Mix b-12 and I am not sure how much to use? I didn’t receive any instructions from my doctor.

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    My medications that I am taking for hypothyroidism is Cytomel.

    Jan 2021, Round 3, starting weight 208 lbs., last dosage weight 188 lbs.
    Jun 2021, Round 4, starting weight 198 lbs., current weight 180 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna Jane View Post
    Ēdo you think that since I did better on the very low dose the last time, that I should start out on 100 iuís instead of 125 iuís? Also, I have the Lipo-Mino-Mix b-12 and I am not sure how much to use? I didnít receive any instructions from my doctor.
    You should definitely start at your last effective dose. I am also someone who is very sensitive to HCG and had to lower the dose significantly to get to the right/effective dose for me. Given that you had immunity issues, you might want to try IM instead of subq. I did this at grammyís instruction/advice since with IM the HCG doesnít build up in the system as much. On IM, the dose is 125 for almost everyone and the first time I did it, it was fine; however, just like I had to with subq, on this round (a year later) I had to reduce my dose. I also started skipping every 5th day instead of once a week as someone else here had recommended and done, and that has worked well too. Just wanted to relay my experience since you ran into immunity issues and have a lower effective dose than most seem to have. I never ran into immunity that I know of since I always waited longer than prescribed between rounds, but every time I come back I have to start where I ended and adjust down. So an immunity of sorts, I guess.

    Good luck with your round!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsWoody View Post
    You should definitely start at your last effective dose. I am also someone who is very sensitive to HCG and had to lower the dose significantly to get to the right/effective dose for me. Given that you had immunity issues, you might want to try IM instead of subq. I did this at grammy’s instruction/advice since with IM the HCG doesn’t build up in the system as much. On IM, the dose is 125 for almost everyone and the first time I did it, it was fine; however, just like I had to with subq, on this round (a year later) I had to reduce my dose. I also started skipping every 5th day instead of once a week as someone else here had recommended and done, and that has worked well too. Just wanted to relay my experience since you ran into immunity issues and have a lower effective dose than most seem to have. I never ran into immunity that I know of since I always waited longer than prescribed between rounds, but every time I come back I have to start where I ended and adjust down. So an immunity of sorts, I guess.

    Good luck with your round!
    Thank you so much for sharing what you have experienced, Mrs. Woody. I hope you had a Happy Mother’s Day.

    This lowering the dosage has happened to others besides you and I, because I have read about them on other sites. So I guess I will start at my last dosage which was 85 iu’s, since this was what worked for you and others. I may start tomorrow instead of the 16th, I am not sure yet. I don’t think 6 days will matter. I need to find out from Leez on what dosage amount I will need to do with the B-12 lipo shots.

    I will be looking forward to hearing from you as I journey through this next Round. Take care.
    My medications that I am taking for hypothyroidism is Cytomel.

    Jan 2021, Round 3, starting weight 208 lbs., last dosage weight 188 lbs.
    Jun 2021, Round 4, starting weight 198 lbs., current weight 180 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna Jane View Post
    Thank you so much for sharing what you have experienced, Mrs. Woody. I hope you had a Happy Motherís Day.

    This lowering the dosage has happened to others besides you and I, because I have read about them on other sites. So I guess I will start at my last dosage which was 85 iuís, since this was what worked for you and others. I may start tomorrow instead of the 16th, I am not sure yet. I donít think 6 days will matter. I need to find out from Leez on what dosage amount I will need to do with the B-12 lipo shots.

    I will be looking forward to hearing from you as I journey through this next Round. Take care.
    Youíre welcome. I hope it helped a little. And thank you, I hope you had a nice Motherís Day as well.

    Wow, you are the first person (aside from Grammy) I have read about that had to go as low as I did. Interesting that you found that on other sites too. I thought I was a lone freak of HCG sensitivity lol. Just be careful as .85 is said to be the lowest effective dose, any lower and there isnít enough to work, I guess. That is why I switched to IM, which is recommended at 125 for everyone. I was scared since it was so much higher than my subq dose, but it worked for me as well. This round I have had to lower that though, even one year later, so I may try HHCG pellets on the next round that Iím hoping to do in the fall. Iím not sure yet, but given the trend I seem to have of always having to lower, that may be my only option (which Iím not even sure will work for me! aside from losing this as a tool altogether. That is a terrifying thought. But I digressÖ

    6 days wonít make a difference if your head is in the right place to start. I find this is as much mental as anything else, at least in the beginning/first week or so as dose issues are settled and I get comfortable.

    Did you try searching for the B12 info? I know the search is terrible but I have definitely seen that question asked/answered, and recently too. If not, hopefully Leez or someone else who has used it will answer soon.

    I hope you are able to get situated and wish you smooth sailing once you get started and progress through your round.

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