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    I have always felt that a bit of fat helps the body burn better. Just based on my own rogue routines. I know the hcg makes our body burn faster despite the lower caloric number, but the body still is not going give up fat if it feels deprived and fat is so important to the body..heart health, mind health, hormone health. Perhaps the mere fact that you were with out for a time period and then giving your body more, just a bit more was enough to make the body thinking all is good and it can now burn fat again.

    does that make any sense? LOL!

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    Hcg 2.0 411

    But but but there's really no fat on 2.0, either. I have had 7 g of fat each day on 2.0 and I usually had 3 or 4 g before I changed. Not much difference there. What is different is that there is much more protein and much less carb.

    It's an interesting question about the switch, though. I'd love to think 2.0 solved my problem. But... I had lost 19 lbs in 14 days the other way, and then stalled for nearly 2 weeks without changing a thing.

    Plus, I kind of eased into 2.0. I was a little afraid of messing up my round and gaining. I increased my protein and dropped my carbs one day. And then I did it more the second day. And then the third day, I went full out 2.0 and BAM! So, I dunno. The original works (I say original, but I've never eaten the grissini), and I've lost a lot of weight on it over many rounds.

    I think my research and experiment tells me 2.0 works, as well. Plus, I feel better on it, and it just makes intuitive sense to me, so this is how I plan to proceed.

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    Down another .8!!!!

    Start. 185.4
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    W1. * 171.6. *-13.8. *-13.8
    W2. * 166.0. *- 5.6. *-19.4
    W3. * 167.2. *+ 1.2. *-18.2
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    Janeen--would you post your daily menu (food intake), say, for the last 4 days? This would give me an idea of the higher protein, lower carb that Original. Also, the 160iu you are injecting now...how does this compare to what you were injecting before when POP. Thanks.

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    Janeen,I bet getting your adrenals in order with the new supplements are what is making the difference. Glad you are feeling so much better!
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    Hcg 2.0 411

    I have been working on my thyroid and adrenals a long time, but haven't changed anything during this round. Maybe have me confused with someone else? It's good to see you again, though. You have helped me so much over several years and many rounds.

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    Hcg 2.0 411

    I haven't changed my hcg at all. The dosage I am on is where I have the least hunger.

    To start 2.0, first you figure out your BMR. I figured mine based on 150, which is where I want to be, and not very far off. Anyway, then you take 40% of that number, and that's your protein calories. Mine is 545. So I eat 545 calories worth of tuna, chicken, salmon, whatever --very lean protein.

    Then there are carbs. I eat 30 g or less total carbs. We don't count those calories in the 545. Just count the carbs. That's it. Let me see if I can get a screen shot of my menu.

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    What I do is, I plan my protein first and put it all in for the day. That way, I can see the calories without the carbs getting in the way. After that, I put in veggies as I go, and just check the carbs. Here, I have today's proteins entered:



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    Here's yesterday's nutrition stats:


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    Hcg 2.0 411

    Ignore the goal numbers. They are MFP's calculations, not my actual goals.

    Does that help?

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    Oh yes. I've been fiddling around MFP and finding inconsistencies. Do you manually enter all the nutritional info on the foods you eat or do you use the search & choose from other's input? I was using search and plugging in foods that seemed "close enough" but then discovered errors so now trying to manually enter info from foods I am eating &/or thoroughly checking #s that have been put in. I believe it is giving me a more accurate reading. Mostly I was just curious about what the %s was with how I was eating...I am eating more protein (about 8-9 oz vs 7 oz) and at least double the veggie portions in an attempt to get my calories closer to 500; yesterday I was way under (322 cal) and gained 0.4 lbs. You don't plug in items such as hima pink salt, lemon juice, ACV?

    Just took my 3 wk weight and here's the result:

    Wk 1: 148-139, (-9 lbs. + 3 more load pounds)
    Wk 2: 139-137.4, (-1.6) = -10.6 in 14 days
    VLCD16: 137.2 (-0.2)
    VLCD17: 136.6 (-0.6) --Protein 59%/Fat 11%/Carbs 30% 419 cal
    VLCD18: 136.6 (-0) --Protein 46%/Fat 30%/Carbs 24% 571 cal  sautéed chix in EVOO 
    VLCD19: 137.0 (+0.4) --Protein 37%/Fat 7%/Carbs 56% 512 cal
    VLCD20: 136.4 (-0.6) --Protein 66%/Fat 20%/Carbs 14% 375 cal
    VLCD21: 135.4 (-1.o) --Protein 67%/Fat 16%/Carbs 17% 322 cal
    VLCD22: 135.8 (+0.4) --Protein %/Fat %/Carbs % cal
    Wk3: 137.4-135.8, (-1.6) = -12.2 in 21 days (avg 0.58 lbs/day)

    So far I've averaged 0.58 lbs/day. Sure it is about avg, but so disappointing that I am not able to have the kind of losses I'm seeing in others. Hard not to compare. I still think I am too chicken to try anything else beyond playing with protein amounts.

    So are you done with P2? I'm so glad that things turned around for you. Woot-woot!

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