Thread: Hcg 2.0 411 Information

Annja: He's a keeper LOL. Have a great time! Best of luck!

I'm writing this for others who might be curious about trying this protocol. You're probably wondering how well this program works and if it's as reliable as the original. Well, as you probably already suspected, it works for some, but not for others. I happen to be among those for whom 2.0 does not work, unfortunately. But dang, I sure wish it did, because I really prefer this way of eating.

I'm glad this protocol has been working for some people. But as we know, all bodies are different and though I gave this a plan a good ol' college try with strict adherence, it did not work for me at all. I gained 5 lbs on loading and haven't even been able to get rid of all my load weight in over 2 weeks. Depending on which day it is, I may have only lost 3 or 4 lbs of LOAD weight, which means I'll be ending two weeks with a weight surplus, not a net weight loss.

I did do the the original protocol a few years ago and lost about 30 lbs after two rounds. It was great at first... the weight came off easily in R1, and I stabalized well. I did notice my periods seemed heavier, during and immediately after the protocol, but that was widely reported to be normal. In R2, I also had success, but again, noticed some menstrual changes (spotting during the entire round, then one of the worst actual periods I ever had...) I again seemed to be stablizing well after round 2 and was thrilled, but my happiness from the weight loss was quickly diminished as I immediately began having increased severity with my "lady problems." It took doctors some time to figure out what was happening to me, but it's now widely believed by most of the doctors I've seen that the protocol exacerbated fibroids (which I did not know I had when I began the program, even though I had been examed just prior to starting the protocol) to a point that seriously compromised my health and ultimately required surgery.

Dr. Simeons talks about getting fibroids taken care of before going on the protocol, and though my recent exam showed no noticeable fibroids before starting the protocol, after the protocol they became so problematic my health severely declined in ways I won't get into because it's a little TMI, but suffice to say, the resulting anemia had my doctors worried about renal failure as my vital organs were so starved of oxygen and shutting down. I felt awful for months and couldn't get out of bed... and guess what? All that wonderful weight loss turned out to be short lived. I didn't even really get to enjoy my new, thin body because I was so ill my legs would tremble upon standing so I couldn't get up and do much. So, the weight came back due to my inability to get out of bed (when you lose 1/3 of your body's blood supply from extended severe hemorraging, the level of bone-tired weakness that follows while your body is trying to make new blood cells is indescribable) and doctors orders to "eat!!" to help build up my red blood cells again, and of course eating lots of meat to get that heme iron was necessary for hemoglobin as truckoads of spinach just wouldn't cut it in my condition and you don't even want to know what those horrendous Rx iron pills will do to your system.... but I digress...

I was afraid to do HCG again after that ordeal, even though it was the only thing that ever worked for me, so I spent the last two years trying to eat healthfully and exercise according to other successful weight management programs ... but gained more weight instead. Now, at my highest weight ever, I decided to come back to the only thing that worked, even though it may have played a serious part in the very health problems from which I'm attempting to recover in the first place.

Since 2.0 seemed somewhat less drastic, I thought I'd start with this protocol to see how it worked for me. Day after day, weighting, measuring and recording every bite in myfitnesspal to be sure I get the exact ratios and percentages like an obsessive freak... I was sure that, even if it was slow, I would see a movement at some point. The first week was a huge disappointment. Gained 5 lbs on load, but only saw a 2lb loss after that... leaving me up 3lbs. I gave it another week and doubled down on physical activity and stepped up my yoga practice. I also tested my ketones and showed mod-heavy ketosis, but only 1 or 2 more pound fluctuations for week two, ending week two still not having lost my load weight.

With being SO strict with every bite, I tried to stay optimistic that even if the scale wasn't changing, surely I must be seeing a drop in inches. Sadly... no.

On the bright side, my appetite is reduced and my carb/sugar cravings are gone, so I feel like I'm fully in a healthy ketosis. This certainly has helped me stay on this very strict way of eating, and feel pretty good while doing it... I just wish it would result in some weight reduction. But it's just not. In fact, I've managed to lose weight with this way of eating when there's no HCG involved, but with HCG, the weight doesn't budge. This does seem like a good p3 way of eating to stabilize, but it's done absolutely nothing for me for weight loss in p2.

So, I'm going to stick a fork in 2.0 and call it done, and get back on the original protocol since that definitely worked for me once before. And then perhaps adapt this way of eating to p3 stabilization.

Liberty, I agree with you that the 2.0 protocol seems healthier than the original, which is why I am doing it. The appeal to me is the little bit of coconut oil allowed, not worrying about my supplements, and the extra protein calories. That said, I think it is hard to lose on 2.0, because it is easy to cheat. I find myself playing with the protocol, trying to get some success within the guidelines. At this moment I am down 8 lbs after 2 weeks, but didn't gain anything during loading (even though I did load with carbs, not just *healthy fats*). The food will be really boring if I ever have to drop the coconut oil, because that is my life saver.

So for today, I am doubling the egg whites for breakfast to 200g. I fry them in CO and sprinkle on turmeric in the pan, then salt and pepper. It is much better than plain egg whites.

Halibut is my favorite protein for lunch/dinner, or veal stewmeat chunks. Yesterday I had grass fed ground beef sauteed with a poblano pepper and celery and chives, and that was tasty and on 2.0 protocol.

I find that my carbs can creep over the 30 carb count, and that I do better if I keep close to 20 carbs per day.

NOt sure if this helps, but I agree with you that the OP is hard on the body. All the best!

Just to be clear, not everyone can lose while including the coconut oil. I never use the coconut oil, but I still am much more satisfied than I was on OP, and my losses are about the same.

If you are happy with your losses and the CO keeps you going, great. If your losses are slow, drop the CO.


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