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LinderLou -- thanks for your reply. I have 2 packages of Corian 2000iu, which is enough for a round (I'm only doing one). I just ordered some bacteriostatic water to mix it -- hopefully it will arrive quickly. I ordered the drops because I didn't want to mess with injections. Obviously a lot has changed since I did the last rounds -- had no idea manufacturers were using amino acids in place of hCG, but using HCG labels. I don't think I want to quit as I've just loaded, so think I'll continue with the amino acid version then switch to the Corian. I'm taking a trip the last week of October so need to begin P3 before I leave. I can handle P3 just fine on a trip, but not P2.

Originally Posted by Belfrybat

LinderLou -- thanks for your reply. I have 2 packages of Corian 2000iu, which is enough for a round (I'm only doing one). I just ordered some bacteriostatic water to mix it -- hopefully it will arrive quickly. I ordered the drops because I didn't want to mess with injections. Obviously a lot has changed since I did the last rounds -- had no idea manufacturers were using amino acids in place of hCG, but using HCG labels. I don't think I want to quit as I've just loaded, so think I'll continue with the amino acid version then switch to the Corian. I'm taking a trip the last week of October so need to begin P3 before I leave. I can handle P3 just fine on a trip, but not P2.

You can do what you want, just keep in mind that if you're "loading", you should have hcg in your system - with the amino drops, you're not getting ANY hcg, so you're not getting the benefits at ALL. It would be like doing the diet without hcg - what's the point? You're not mobilizing abnormal fat stores, you're just starving yourself and losing good fat and possibly muscle. If it were me, I'd just eat normal until your bac water arrives and then start VLCD after the 3rd injection. I understand your urgency about your timing with your trip. Just trying to point out to you that you will still have only the number of days on the diet after you start the real hcg, assuming you are trying to reach the minimum of 23 injections.

Yes, a lot changed a few years ago when the FDA got involved. While they thought they were protecting us from fraudsters, it just created a whole new level of fraud... and more bad press for this diet... Hope your bac water arrives soon and that you can get started for real.

LinderLou - thanks for your responses. This thread is completely dead so I doubt I will get any help or support here from anyone doing HCG 2.0 (other than you). I found a Facebook group specifically for 2.0, so am switching to there. I hate the Facebook interface, but if I'm going to be successful, I figure I'll need some support along the way.

Originally Posted by Belfrybat

LinderLou - thanks for your responses. This thread is completely dead so I doubt I will get any help or support here from anyone doing HCG 2.0 (other than you). I found a Facebook group specifically for 2.0, so am switching to there. I hate the Facebook interface, but if I'm going to be successful, I figure I'll need some support along the way.

Hi Belfry - ... and I'm not even doing 2.0

You're right, this thread is pretty dead. There are a couple of threads in Leez's Loaders group and the Lovely Losers Support Group where there is a new thread for every month. Everyone is super supportive, whether they are in a round or not, and many of them do 2.0 or some form of it and are very knowledgeable. Jump on either or both October threads and I'm sure you will get feedback and support. YES, we def need support and encouragement on this journey.

Belfrybat,
I just saw your post. I recently finished a forty day round using the 2.0 protocol. I also did three rounds using OP in 2011 (six years ago). I am on day 5 of P3 now. Stabilizing is tons easier after 2.0. I lost 21.5 lb during Phase 2 and am about 1 lb below my LIW today.
I LOVE the 2.0 protocol, especially the deletion of fruit and Melba. I stayed in ketosis the entire round and never suffered from hunger. I was tired a lot but the VLCD always makes me tired. Another bonus of 2.0 is the addition of MCT oil. You are allowed 2 Tbsp per day. You don’t have to count it toward you daily caloric totals. You can easily make mayo from it and that makes everything easier.
Unfortunately, I agree with Linderlou about the hcg drops. I’d wait but that’s just me. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Last10

Good morning. I just brushed up on the 2.0 protocol. I'll be loading later this week. VLCD1 is on the 1st. Makes it simple. I searched my devices for my book but can't find it. I must have deleted it at some point. For whoever asked, there really isn't a food list that I remember. Eat lean protein to your particular calorie number, then eat under 30 carbs. I've been keto/LCHF so the challenge is not the low carb but eating lean protein for me.

LAST10,
How did it go? I'm thinking of doing 2.0, too, but not sure when yet.

I accidentally ordered only two vials, though only looking to lose... 10. I can get 26 or more injections out of two 2000(IU) vials.

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Originally Posted by Jayk

This diet is not too hard to follow. If you don't have the book, just download the app, and it has the chart with the foods listed in order of highest protein. The book is quite cheap on amazon, though, and just use the kindle app to read it.

I am doing it this time around. I thought I would try it for a change. I figured I would just switch back to original protocol after the first or second week, if I noticed it not working. But it is working, and like the Original Protocol, I don't get alarmed if I don't lose for a day or so, as I know I am losing inches instead of pounds.

I just eat the foods on the chart. I have had chicken, pork loin, and tuna is mostly what I eat. For breakfast I add Trim Healthy Mama Pristine Whey Protein powder to my coffee.

Just use the BMR calculator to find out how many calories your allowed a day. I then use the My Fitness App to add my foods daily and see where I am at. I don't have any fruits as they are not allowed, and still mostly just use the Vegetables from the Original protocol. You don't need to add the calories of the veggies if you keep your carbs lower than 30 grams a day. So you can eat quite a bit if you want too.
I have ate broccoli and a bit of cauliflower. I use my seasonings, lemon juice, a vinaigrette ( in the hcg recipes for p2) and a balsamic vinegar.
I haven't added the MCT oil, and feel no need to.
I still drink my two litres of water, but like that you can have zero calorie drinks if you want to.

Also if hungry I have a lean protein snack before bed, either another protein drink or Mcsweeney's Turkey jerky, as it has sugars etc in it. Dr. Zach believes it helps you sleep and feeds cellular repair and maintenance.

I mostly agree with the Original Protocol myself as it works, but wanted to try this and see how it goes, and so far it has been good. I am three weeks in on P2. I more week to go.

Some links if needed

https://www.insideoutwellness.net/what-is-hcg/

http://nutritiondata.self.com/tools/calories-burned - very informative site on foods.

https://www.myfitnesspal.com/

I use intermountain pellets, and Dr. Zach even believes in hhcg. He has only found that the real hcg injections are sometimes best when trying to lose that last stubborn 15 lbs, that some people have issues with.

Which app are you saying to download? Thanks for all the tips!

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