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    Quote Originally Posted by gz9gjg View Post
    You do not count the calories in the MCT oil, and you don't count vegetable calories, only track the carbs to keep below 30 g per day.

    For meats, he suggests using the PFC calculation and choose those with the highest scores, the idea being you get the most protein and larger portion sizes with those. Example, beef in the US is relatively fatty, so it scores poorly compared to tuna.

    I looked this up in his book
    I get the majority of 2.0, but one of the Admins days, "I would subtract the mct oil calories from your daily total. Olive oil is not preferred on 2.0 because it is not a medium chain tryglyceride fat. The MCT oil and coconut oils have been proven to fuel ketosis.."

    Dr Z needs a book revision!

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    MCT Mayo for 2.0:

    1 egg some folks say room temp, but I don’t
    1 tsp vinegar ( I use white not acv)
    1 tps Dijon mustard
    1 cup MCT oil
    1 tsp salt( for me personally 1 tsp is too much salt,so salt to your own taste.
    Put all ingredients in a container Except the MCT oil .. I find a tall vessel is best, blend with a stick blender well, then add oil.. very very slowly ( at least 1 minute) until it begins to thicken. Continue adding oil until all has been incorportated. It is truly a game changer.
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    Woo-Hoo!! Thanks for your patience while I cleared the cobwebs and was straightened out on 2.0.

    Great news! Scale moved and it went down 1.4# from yesterday. No wonder I kept going to the bathroom!
    I had more protein than before, but stayed within my allowance.

    Thinking I won't weigh until Friday or Saturday. I know I'm curious, but in the big scheme it messes with my head.
    Is that a good or bad idea?
    Start 6/3/2011 @ 165.25'7'' - 49 yo
    R1=31.6# lost; .548#/day average loss, 7/28/2011 LIW=137.6
    R2=12.4# lost; .4133/day average loss; 11/16/2011 LIW=126
    R3=13# lost; .464/day average loss; 3/16/2013 LIW=126 - age 51
    R4 commencing 12/31/2017...32-day round; lost 14#... age 55



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    Quote Originally Posted by Carry2010 View Post
    Woo-Hoo!! Thanks for your patience while I cleared the cobwebs and was straightened out on 2.0.

    Great news! Scale moved and it went down 1.4# from yesterday. No wonder I kept going to the bathroom!
    I had more protein than before, but stayed within my allowance.

    Thinking I won't weigh until Friday or Saturday. I know I'm curious, but in the big scheme it messes with my head.
    Is that a good or bad idea?
    Nice loss, Carry! I am still trying to figure out 2.0 as well. It’s not just about the calories, the protien grams are important, too. I keep getting to the calories but am lower on my protein grams. Still working through it and have not tried the MCT oil yet.

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    Has anyone use avocado mayo in 2.0? I used about 1 Tbs. in tuna today and hope I didn't goof on my first P2 day. Never done 2.0 before...a bit scared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu24 View Post
    Nice loss, Carry! I am still trying to figure out 2.0 as well. It’s not just about the calories, the protien grams are important, too. I keep getting to the calories but am lower on my protein grams. Still working through it and have not tried the MCT oil yet.
    Don't confuse protein grams with protein calories, Lulu.

    Someone told me to be on the safe side, account for calories for MCT oil or coconut oil.... and make sure you don't go over total allowed calories. The other number to be mindful is the protein calories. Don't short yourself.

    Do you have both numbers?

    As far as vegetables, do not go over 30gr.

    Do you have the book?
    Start 6/3/2011 @ 165.25'7'' - 49 yo
    R1=31.6# lost; .548#/day average loss, 7/28/2011 LIW=137.6
    R2=12.4# lost; .4133/day average loss; 11/16/2011 LIW=126
    R3=13# lost; .464/day average loss; 3/16/2013 LIW=126 - age 51
    R4 commencing 12/31/2017...32-day round; lost 14#... age 55



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    Quote Originally Posted by Natalie View Post
    Has anyone use avocado mayo in 2.0? I used about 1 Tbs. in tuna today and hope I didn't goof on my first P2 day. Never done 2.0 before...a bit scared.
    Do you have the book? I'll search mine for 'avocado.'
    (I'm thinking not, though.)

    2.0 is new to me.... My first time to add one of the oils was way wrong. That's what I get for reading the book too late at night while in bed. I thought it said: MCT oil, coconut oil, or olive oil. NO to olive oil.
    >Doh!< I had zero losses the third day after VLCD2. Grrrrr. But I corrected my errors and so far I am pleased about the results to date, though today is only VLCD7.
    Start 6/3/2011 @ 165.25'7'' - 49 yo
    R1=31.6# lost; .548#/day average loss, 7/28/2011 LIW=137.6
    R2=12.4# lost; .4133/day average loss; 11/16/2011 LIW=126
    R3=13# lost; .464/day average loss; 3/16/2013 LIW=126 - age 51
    R4 commencing 12/31/2017...32-day round; lost 14#... age 55



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    Quote Originally Posted by Carry2010 View Post
    Do you have the book? I'll search mine for 'avocado.'
    (I'm thinking not, though.)

    2.0 is new to me.... My first time to add one of the oils was way wrong. That's what I get for reading the book too late at night while in bed. I thought it said: MCT oil, coconut oil, or olive oil. NO to olive oil.
    >Doh!< I had zero losses the third day after VLCD2. Grrrrr. But I corrected my errors and so far I am pleased about the results to date, though today is only VLCD7.
    The book shows avocado, BUT, you'll need to consider the carb count---keep under 30 gr
    Surely a TBL is not much, Natalie, though a whole avocado has quite a bit of carbs.

    Keep us posted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carry2010 View Post
    Don't confuse protein grams with protein calories, Lulu.

    Someone told me to be on the safe side, account for calories for MCT oil or coconut oil.... and make sure you don't go over total allowed calories. The other number to be mindful is the protein calories. Don't short yourself.

    Do you have both numbers?

    As far as vegetables, do not go over 30gr.

    Do you have the book?
    I do have the book and thought I knew what I was doing. I will be mindful of the calories, but I saw on the Facebook 2.0 group I have to watch the grams, also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu24 View Post
    I do have the book and thought I knew what I was doing. I will be mindful of the calories, but I saw on the Facebook 2.0 group I have to watch the grams, also.
    Hi Lulu

    This is why I used the chart in Dr Zach's HCG 2.0 app for the phone, plus I used My Fitness Pal App to load the info on what I ate. That let me know with what size servings I chose, how many calories, protein etc I was having per day. I found using the combinatioin of both apps helped me each day in what to eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natalie View Post
    Has anyone use avocado mayo in 2.0? I used about 1 Tbs. in tuna today and hope I didn't goof on my first P2 day. Never done 2.0 before...a bit scared.
    Avocodo has 322 Calories, 4.02 Protein, 29.47 Fat and 17.15 Carbs, P/CF is 0.09
    I think 1 TBS is fine, and shouldn't hurt.

    Grab the HCG 2.0 app on Google Play or Apple Store.. It has a chart showing everything. Plus Christy posted most of the charts in the Lovely Losers Group as well.

    I used Dill pickle relish with my tuna

    A sample menu from his book

    Lunch: Tuna Lettuce Wraps w/ Dill Pickle Relish (100 g. equals roughly one can drained, 116 calories) Add whatever veggies to tuna salad you want. By dicing, chewing and digesting them, the caloric intake is not relevant. Spinach Salad (2 cups, tomato 1/ 2, cucumber ½) o Use MCT oil or better yet, zero-calorie/ carb alternative. Even better still, just use balsamic vinegar, salt and pepper.

    Snack: 1 oz. beef zero-carb jerky (60 cal) 1 cup chicken bouillon (5 cal)
    Dinner: Chicken Breast (150 grams or 5.25oz) w/ sautéed peppers (245 cal) and steamed broccoli
    Snack before bed: ½ serving whey protein shake ( 85 cal)

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayk View Post
    Avocodo has 322 Calories, 4.02 Protein, 29.47 Fat and 17.15 Carbs, P/CF is 0.09
    I think 1 TBS is fine, and shouldn't hurt.

    Grab the HCG 2.0 app on Google Play or Apple Store.. It has a chart showing everything. Plus Christy posted most of the charts in the Lovely Losers Group as well.

    I used Dill pickle relish with my tuna

    A sample menu from his book

    Lunch: Tuna Lettuce Wraps w/ Dill Pickle Relish (100 g. equals roughly one can drained, 116 calories) Add whatever veggies to tuna salad you want. By dicing, chewing and digesting them, the caloric intake is not relevant. Spinach Salad (2 cups, tomato 1/ 2, cucumber ½) o Use MCT oil or better yet, zero-calorie/ carb alternative. Even better still, just use balsamic vinegar, salt and pepper.

    Snack: 1 oz. beef zero-carb jerky (60 cal) 1 cup chicken bouillon (5 cal)
    Dinner: Chicken Breast (150 grams or 5.25oz) w/ sautéed peppers (245 cal) and steamed broccoli
    Snack before bed: ½ serving whey protein shake ( 85 cal)

    Good luck
    There was a question about the use of balsamic vinegar on FB 2.0 Support & Recipes. Be careful! Look at the amount of carbs in that one TBL of balsamic vinegar.

    Here are some quotes from it:

    "I found a lower carb version of balsamic vinegar and diluted 1 tsp. with 1T. unflavored coconut oil. Just read your labels, stay away from brands high in sugar and count your carbs."

    "Some have only 2carbs if it's blended with mct oil you wouldn't need as much."

    So the rest of the story is to double check carb AND sugar count BEFORE you buy or use a food item.
    Example: I saw a yummy recipe for chicken that also used non-fat cottage cheese..... oh, yum! Cottage cheese is on the protein list of 2.0, right, BUT the cottage cheese I bought (and used 2TBL) didn't have enough protein (as listed in the chart) and had too many sugar gr, and consequently carbs. I did it anyway. Consequently, perhaps, losses were zero again, after yesterday's fabulous -1.4#. LEARNING THE HARD WAY!
    Start 6/3/2011 @ 165.25'7'' - 49 yo
    R1=31.6# lost; .548#/day average loss, 7/28/2011 LIW=137.6
    R2=12.4# lost; .4133/day average loss; 11/16/2011 LIW=126
    R3=13# lost; .464/day average loss; 3/16/2013 LIW=126 - age 51
    R4 commencing 12/31/2017...32-day round; lost 14#... age 55



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