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Thread: Homeopathic HCG is likely all a placebo and possibly dangerous compared to real HCG

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    Agreed. :-)
    I mentioned that woman because she was having such issues and it seemed like one of the things that was excessive. Maybe it was 10000 calories. No, that couldn't be right. haha Perhaps her system just couldn't handle the whipping cream in general. I do think that calories don't matter nearly as much as many people think, because there are so many contributing and mitigating factors, a big one being how what you're eating agrees with your system. I think that's the biggest hang-up for most people--figuring out what foods their bodies like and need most and when they need them. This whole eating thing is not what we thought it was. And it's not whatever we were doing that made us fat. We need a big shift, and not everybody needs quite the same shift.
    (And since you found that comment about the HWC buried in my treatise, you deserve at least ten gold stars for making it through my massive post. )
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    Every year or two we have someone come on the board and try to save us all from HHCG because they've seen googled something or seen a documentary that said something. But never actually used it. Yet there have been hundreds if not thousands of people here that have successfully lost weight and not just lost weight but maintained those losses over the years. We've had boardies post bodpod testing before and after and they maintained their muscle mass, that shouldn't have happened if they did a 500 cal diet only.

    Also the blind study I posted about early in this post showed significant reshaping in the HHCG drop group even though the weightloss was similar in both the HHCG and placebo group. That was a controlled scientific study so not something you can just disregard. That's the same reshaping we see with HCG shots. You may not be able to detect it in the blood but some how it's having an effect on the body.

    Just because a Dr. can't explain it, doesn't mean it isn't happening. Looking back through my notes I can compare my HCG rounds vs my HHCG rounds and the weightloss is almost exact for both. So I guess with that data and the theory that HHCG is doing nothing because it's not detectable in the blood. I should assume that HCG is doing nothing and I'm just losing weight due to the diet. After all I lose similar on HHCG and HCG so it must just be the diet and everyone saying HCG is junk must be right. I lose similar on both so that has to be proof that it's all placebo effect. Or maybe that's proof that they both work?

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    Well ladies, it's clear you all have made up your mind and no amount of evidence I could present would ever change your mind. So I'm going to end my input on this thread here.

    But as much as you want to make me out to be the bad guy, a lot of the things you have accused me of, were the same things you did towards me. Keep that in mind.
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    Nobody was making you out to be a bad guy. :-) A couple of us even thanked you for looking out for people, even if we had a different opinion on homeopathics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canadianboy View Post
    Well ladies, it's clear you all have made up your mind and no amount of evidence I could present would ever change your mind. So I'm going to end my input on this thread here.

    But as much as you want to make me out to be the bad guy, a lot of the things you have accused me of, were the same things you did towards me. Keep that in mind.

    I'm living proof of how homeopathic hCG is "placebo".
    Started my HCG journey on March 16, 2011

    Just for the record, no part of this journey is for the weak.


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    Not sure you read the comments because if you did, you would see that no one "made you out" to be anything other than what you said you are. You're a skeptic. No amount of proof from personal experience and the experiences of thousands of people will ever change your mind, but it doesn't have to. That's why we have freedom of speech and you're free to feel/think however you'd like
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    Yup, doesn't work at all :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by canadianboy View Post
    Hello everyone.

    I just wanted to mention to everyone that a lot of research has been done on homeopathy and there is no evidence that it works. In fact, The National Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC) in Australia has released a statement;

    there are no health conditions for which there is reliable evidence that homeopathy is effective.
    Source: NHMRC

    So while some people are reporting that HHCG helped them, I'd put a high wager that this is due to the placebo effect and not because of any actual physiological effects from the HHCG itself.

    In fact, the NHS is considering banning homeopathy from receiving any further funding due to its lack of evidence and possibly risks of harm. Source: DailyMail

    So for those of you who are using the HHCG, I would highly recommend getting your hands on real HCG, and don't take a chance with your health. You could be losing the wrong type of fat, and messing with your hormones, especially the thyroid.
    welllll heres the thing...when I first started this, I was 353 pounds...had really bad high blood pressure, diabetes, sleep apnea AND I was stage 4 kidney failure...Once I started it I went to not only my regular physician but also my kidney doctor through several rounds...they knew nothing about this diet and asked me tons of questions....as the weight dropped.....little by little they both noticed my health improving...and once I dropped 50 pounds the sleep apnea was gone...once I dropped 100 my diabetes was gone...I have managed to maintain my levels in stages for my kidney failure and everything is good....my kidney doctor was so impressed with it that he did further research and started recommending this diet to some of his heavier patients...soooo my experience says yes, it works...


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    Quote Originally Posted by grammy1952 View Post
    Calories really don't matter. That woman can have all the heavy whipping cream she wants as long as she's not allergic to it. The most common reasons for regaining are food allergies or endocrine problems for women. Men have an easier time of it because they don't have all the hormonal intricacies and women often have thyroid problems as well.

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    its that dang carrageenan hahaha


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    I've already stated I won't be replying anymore to this. I've been explicitly warned by a moderator that I will be banned if I do.
    28 Year old Male, 5'11 ½" - Starting Weight; 213lbs, Goal Weight; 170lbs.




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    At some point calories do matter. No one can eat unlimited calories, even if they aren't sensitive to the items, you are going to gain if you binge eat no way around it. So while you may be able to eat more by avoiding foods that you are sensitive to you still can't eat unlimited quantities. I'm 4'11" if I took in for example 4,000-5,000 calories a day, every single day I'd be wider than I am tall in no time doesn't matter what those calories consisted of LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterNai View Post
    While you mention Australia moving away from homeopathy, in Germany, it is still a favored form of treatment.
    Researchers have found a sizable surge in the placebo affect in Americans when studying anti-depressants, anti-psychotics and pain medications.

    A meta-analysis that compared placebo responses around the globe found that Brazilians had the lowest placebo effects — 7 percent healing rate — while the world’s average is 36 percent. Germany ranks the highest with a 59 percent response rate, which is three times its neighboring countries, Denmark and the Netherlands.

    Source: http://nypost.com/2016/01/24/medical...ore-effective/
    Just because people lost weight, does not mean the HHCG had anything to do with it. Just saying.... now stop keeping this thread going. I already told you I'm done.
    28 Year old Male, 5'11 ½" - Starting Weight; 213lbs, Goal Weight; 170lbs.




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