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Thread: Homeopathic HCG is likely all a placebo and possibly dangerous compared to real HCG

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    I love how he says he's done and just keeps replying We're all just having fun at this point. The HCG does have everything to do with it. You can't put your body in starvation mode and keep the weight off. My sister tried it when she was younger. She weighed around 100 lbs. for a few years while only eating maybe 300-700 calories a day and exercising like a crazy woman. After she stopped starving herself she gained around 100+ lbs. and still exercises but can't lose any weight. She's completely wiped out her metabolism and now has other health issues. Others have experienced the same.
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    This thread has been moved to the appropriate section: The Boxing Ring.

    CanadianBoy, we appreciate your research and would even consider sharing this as an article if you would like to submit it here: hdihealth (@) gmail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadianboy View Post
    Just because people lost weight, does not mean the HHCG had anything to do with it. Just saying.... now stop keeping this thread going. I already told you I'm done.
    You are the one that kept bringing it back up repeatedly! The thread had already moved on when you came back and replied, then came back and replied again so please don't pretend otherwise.

    If you are done be done but people are free to continue to discuss their successes with HHCG, that is what the board is here for, you do not get to control that.

    Some do well on HCG, others do well on HHCG, still others will do well on both doesn't mean we can't all support each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcgdietinfo View Post
    This thread has been moved to the appropriate section: The Boxing Ring.

    CanadianBoy, we appreciate your research and would even consider sharing this as an article if you would like to submit it here: hdihealth (@) gmail.

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    Thank you for chiming in Jen. I was unaware that it was in the wrong section. I will be more careful in the future.
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    I think a good rule of thumb for the this diet is the live and let live motto. There are many variations and options, and what works for one, may not work for another. It's good to remember that
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    Sorry Canadian boy to bump this but just want to give a thumbs up to the moderators here who seem to be very accommodating and tolerant with us. I was censored on another board for promoting hcg even though it had a separate section for it so I always drift back here
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    Quote Originally Posted by canadianboy View Post
    So while some people are reporting that HHCG helped them, I'd put a high wager that this is due to the placebo effect and not because of any actual physiological effects from the HHCG itself.
    don't underestimate placebo. the big pharma companies are working vary hard to beat placebo in their clinical studies.
    some claim that analgesic effect of opiates is mostly placebo. i agree. i had renal colic lately and opiates didn't do a thing for me (but they help me greatly for headaches).

    Quote Originally Posted by jasminej View Post
    Study Shmudy...studies have shown real HCG doesn't work so you had better stop eh.
    not exactly, studies showed no benefit over placebo, but there was always a benefit.

    Quote Originally Posted by poobears View Post
    Also there is zero proof that HCG works at all. Dr. S said it did but there is still no current studies to back it up.
    see above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akcharger View Post
    Well it's a highly effective placeo then. I've done 4 rounds with an avg of .75lbs loss a day
    medical studies clearly show that placebo effects are proportional to the cost. ie people get better results from brand vs generic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akcharger View Post
    Well, even if it IS a placebo the plan works effectively and works consistently...I'm good with that!
    ditto, see above.

    IMHO, there is value to HCG diet if it helps lose weight, period. it may be much better than placebo for some who have screwed up hormones, after all it's approved for treatment of hypogonadism.

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    As a side note--
    Whether the medical profession acknowledges a sugar/fat addiction is a moot point. I don't need them to acknowledge what I know that I have. The hcg helped me get past the initial phase of my addiction. I no longer have physical cravings for fats/sugars. I also don't need a "study" to tell me what helped me. All of the research that was done-- needs to be looked at ... why was the study done? Who funded the study? Where and when was it done? And what exactly were the goals of the study? Research cannot be truly understood until these factors and others are considered.
    It would be quite difficult for anybody to do any true research in this day-- as there is BIG bucks to be earned from habitual dieters. Hcg could stop that! It also could prevent medical conditions that are induced through bad eating habits and obesity. Not to mention surgeries, medications and early death. Our pharma, medical professionals would take a huge hit-- and no one is going to fund a research that would prove that. Just saying....
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    I know it's not a placebo effect because I daily see what happens when the dose is wrong--hunger, poor losses and even gains, losses from the wrong areas. I've even experienced it myself. When my dose is right, I lose weight from my hips and thighs which is where I carry my fat. On the wrong dose, I start losing in my face and neck and look gaunt. I've done 500 calorie diets before with shakes for example and never had the losses like I do with hcg, nor did it take the fat from where I needed to lose.
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    Most of the studies done were by Drs that support HCG so they weren't by people trying to prove it didn't work, just the opposite they were looking or any proof it did work. The reshaping is the one that can't be explained so on some cellular level something is happening even with drops so who knows what else is happening that can't be detected. HCG doesn't make you lose weight that's pretty much a given, the diet makes you lose weight, otherwise you could just take it and do nothing else and the weight would fall off (oh wouldn't that be nice LOL). But hcg does something that promotes inches lost in the midsection and reshaping.

    I don't think the exact diet is the key to anything, it's just what was fairly balanced nutritionally, super low cal so quick results, short enough duration so most could make it through it and most people had easy access to those particular foods. He said in the book that he altered the plan to work for whatever foods were available to the areas he was treating at the time so the list was not set in stone. It would have been interesting to see what changes were made to the plan had his research been continued.

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    I've seen way too much here on the forum the past 7 years to believe that. I KNOW it's crucial. I've seen variations come and go and the real protocol always works the best and helps the weight loss stay off best.
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    There's too many alternate plans out there with different veggy lists etc where people lose and keep it off, this is not the only plan that is successful, many of the plans with modified veggie lists are too. Eating one veggie over another as long as it's not a starchy veg vs a low carb veg isn't going to make or break your round. IMO Dr. S kept it as simple as possible with the items that were as easy to get as possible. 50 years ago you didn't have access to all the veggies year round like we do now. Makes sense to keep it to the ones that most people could get without importing them or paying a high price, waiting for a growing season etc. If the Dr modified his own plan for each area he worked in based on the available foods I don't know why everyone is hung up on the exact list. Your body is not going to process one low gi veggie that's on the list vs another in the same range that isn't, your body doesn't know what's on the list.

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