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    Hi,

    First of all, thanks so much to everyone for all the advice and solid information. It's much appreciated!

    I'm new to the Hcg community. I'm on my first round, VLCD day 9, hHcg drops (with TGL Nutrition "Reflect" hHcg SL drops). Have lost 8 lbs so far, but will be switching to the injections. The adjustment of drops and taking them all through has turned out to be a hassle for me. They work, but I definitely want to try the single shot per day method. Would've went that route but didn't know SQ was possible at the time.

    Yesterday I got Corion 5000 and just have a few questions about the extra supplies.

    How many of the 10 ML mixing vials would I need?
    Is that one sterile vial per round? Or one per day?
    (will be ordering from the suggested gpzservices)

    Also, is this correct? The injection syringe/needle is the same as used for insulin administration?

    Thanks again!

    ~rachelle

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    one vial of water per vial of hcg you order. 2 different needles. 1/2" 1cc 29 gauge are what you'll use everyday for the injections. healthwarehouse.com.

    to MIX- one new needle for every time you mix. must be at least 1.5" long, 3 cc, 22 gauge (or bigger, meaning a lower numger)
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    Msongdance[/B] fat2- yes. once mixed, it starts to lose potency at 2 weeks. stretching it a bit farther is fine for most, but some people notice the difference even a bit before the 2 wk point.
    I see but does that mean I would have to buy 2 vials of HCG to mix(injections)? That would be costly
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    Quote Originally Posted by fat2phat View Post
    I see but does that mean I would have to buy 2 vials of HCG to mix(injections)? That would be costly
    yes- most buy more than one vial. a single vial of 2000 or a vial of 5000 is very affordable- so it's not worth messing up your diet or risking your health for going cheaper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsondance View Post
    yes- most buy more than one vial. a single vial of 2000 or a vial of 5000 is very affordable- so it's not worth messing up your diet or risking your health for going cheaper.
    I think that i am confused. i have been ordering a vial of HCG only for 40.00 no mixing. where are others buying it for the price of 10-15 dollars?
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    Wow! What an informative post! People pay to learn everything that you just shared...thank you.
    Round 1 phase 2 did 107 days Hhcg Lost 52 pounds. So glad I fell for this 'scam'!!

    Started R2 10/26/11. Lost 6 pounds first week. Bad drops, no lost weight, the holidays did me in!

    For 4 years I stayed within 10# of my LDW. But, in last year, packed on 40#!

    R3 P2 07/14/16 Rx premixed injections from clinic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat2phat View Post
    I think that i am confused. i have been ordering a vial of HCG only fo 40.00 no mixing. where are others buying it for the price of 10-15 dollars?
    Well, some are buying from alldaychemist.com, which is fine if you are willing to take the health risks and if you understand there is no guarantee you are getting real hcg. This is counterfeit versions of USA hcg brands, made overseas in unlicensed facilities. Now, IF you're buying something premixed, then it's probably homeopathic hcg- not rx hcg. if it's homeopathic you don't have to worry about potency.
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    [b]1. Decide if you want to use homeopathic hcg (hhcg) or prescription grade hcg (Rx hcg)- I strongly prefer the latter, so the majority of my directions will be based on that.

    Homeopathic vs. Prescription Hcg:

    Advantages and Disadvantages of Various Hcg Protocols
    Summary of the Original Hcg Diet Protocol

    2. Decide if you want to do drops or shots. Both methods work equally well, and it’s easy to adjust your dose as needed.
    Shots- Advantage of the shots is that you only need to do them once a day, which makes them the easiest. You use diabetic needles so there is essentially no pain involved, although some people are queasy about the idea.
    Drops- You have to do these twice a day, 12 hours apart. You have to avoid food and water 15’ before, and 15’ after, and hold the drops under your tongue for 5’ so it takes a bit more time.
    - "Hcg Diet Drops"
    - "How to Switch from Homeopathic HCG to Real HCG"
    - "How to know if our Hcg diet drops are real"

    Homeopathic HHCG Drops: At this point I feel even MORE strongly that you should only use legitimate homeopathic hhcg drops (such as Triumph drops which are very popular and have HCG listed in the ingredients. True homeopathic drops should read something like, "hCG 3X, 6X, 12X, 30X" on the ingredients list.

    A Note on "hormone free" (aka fake drops): Any drops you buy at a drugstore such as Walgreen's, GNC, CVS, etc., are "hormone free" and are NOT going to have any Hcg in them- they consist of water, amino acids, appetite suppressors, and maybe a little alcohol or other preservative. You will not be able to do the HCG Diet Plan on them- you will be hungry, and feel weak. In fact, it is unsafe on the VLCD. Both of those are signs that you are only doing a low-cal diet, and your body is going to be forced to burn muscle for fuel- something you do NOT want, even if you're losing weight- you will just gain it back after the diet is done. If you have hunger or low energy, stop them immediately and switch to a real Hcg product.

    Read more before you buy hcg diet drops:
    - "Hcg Diet Drops"


    3. WHERE TO PURCHASE YOUR HCG:

    The best place, in my opinion, is Diet Doc, but there are a few legitimate telemedicine companies that sell Hcg kits online. You can check the official list of recommendations from the Buy Hcg tab at the top of the forums and Jenn is good about vetting these companies on a regular basis. Many people have been ordering from DD and Nu Image for many years, and they are companies you can trust. They are FDA approved telehealth clinics so you do not need a prescription; they will prescribe one for you. You order will also only take 1-6 days to get to you depending on the shipping method you choose. Either of these companies are excellent choices for Rx injections, however NuImage is the only company that offers prescription grade drops. These companies will include your Hcg, prescription, and all the correct supplies needed which make it simple.

    Never purchase HCG on your own and get 10,000 iu bottles or otherwise! The hcg potency will expire long before you use that amount since the dosage used for the Hcg is so small. This is why REPUTABLE hcg diet sources will always provide the smaller, separate bottles of 5000 iu's (not 10,000iu's that are used for fertility.)

    When you buy hcg diet drops, pellets, and tablets the amount of hcg ingredient is significantly higher to make up for what is lost through the digestion process. This is particularly true for pellets and tablets, which are usually double the dosage. These must be the kind that dissolve in your mouth and not pill forms that are swallowed.

    How much to buy: Shelf life
    The shelf-life of hcg (powdered, not mixed) is generally a year or more, so buy all that you think you are going to need to reach your goal since the telemedicine companies offer a discount for multiple vial purchases. The shipping cost is $25 no matter how much you buy, so it’s to your advantage to buy it all at once- the hcg itself is quite inexpensive. Note: to preserver your unused Hcg, refrigerate it. Freezing is not necessary.

    Brands- IF your doctor has prescribed the Hcg for you, you can request specific brands. Some brands come with a rubber stopper, and some in a glass ampule. The ampules are much harder to deal with, so I recommend the former. Brands with this top are Hucog (powder), Hucog (pre-mixed liquid), Ovidac and Corion. All these brands are good ones IF they are made in the USA. The counterfeit versions of these brands are sold from overseas "pharmacies" (online stores) but they come with risks: some have no hcg in them, some are toxic with serious side effects, and all are made in unregulated factories with cheap ingredients. In addition, there is the risk of fraud and banks in the current year, are no longer refunding lost money to these types of fraud. It is simply not worth it to purchase outside of the US, in my honest opinion.

    These are the currently recommended sources for high potency, pharmaceutical grade Hcg:

    Nu Image and Diet Doc make sure their hcg is well over the required 92% potency, with averages over 100%.

    For homeopathic Hcg:
    Triumph



    2. WHICH FORM OF HCG TO BUY: INJECTIONS, DROPS, PELLETS OR TABLETS

    -Hcg Diet Injections- The advantage of the hcg diet shots is that you only need to do them once a day, which makes them the easiest. You use tiny diabetic needles so there is essentially no pain involved. Nu Image, Diet Doc and Riverfront MD include ALL supplies and make their hcg in the USA so this makes it simple to purchase a complete kit, safe and legal.

    -Hcg Diet Drops- You have to do these at least twice a day, 12 hours apart (Different brands have different instructions.) You have to avoid food and water 15 minutes before, and 15 minutes after. Nu Image offers Rx Drops with slightly different instructions than homeopathic. If you prefer homeopathic, then Triumph is a popular choice.

    -Hcg Diet Pellets- HCG Pellets are prescription strength, and are typically taken once a day. This is a good choice for those who want prescription-strength HCG without having to deal with needles. Pellets typically have double the dosage to make up for HCG lost in the digestion process. The downside to pellets, is that the dosage is not easily adjusted- they fall apart when trying to break them up.

    -Hcg Diet Tablets- HCG Tablets are similar to pellets except that they are easier to break if you want to adjust your dosage, and they are said to deliver the hcg better. As far as I know, the only company that provides REAL Rx hCG tablets is Diet Doc.



    TIPS FOR BUYING HCG INJECTIONS AND DROPS ONLINE:


    4. Hcg Cost: Medical weight loss treatments are not cheap, however there are ways to save money. First, if your doctor will prescribe your Hcg, it is possible that your insurance will cover the expenses. If not, going through an online telemedicine company is the next affordable option since clinics tend to charge 3 times as much. It is also important to keep in mind that this is not a time to go "cheap." This is a medical hormone you will be putting into your body, and it is important to have REAL and high potency pharmaceutical grade Hcg.



    ABOUT hCG DOSAGE AND POTENCY

    Dose- Doctor's generally recommend people start with 150 iu’s for shots, and at least 175 iu’s twice a day for prescription drops (homeopathic is not measured in iu's.) If you are hungry, this is usually because your dosage is too high. It’s very important to NOT be hungry or weak on this diet- if you are, you risk decreasing your metabolism and/or burning muscle for fuel. Always ask for help from your prescribing doctor or here in the forums if you’re hungry or weak. You may need to increase or decrease this dose, so I generally have people purchase hcg based on needing 175-200 per day. For drops, you might need to go as high as 250 per day, although most do well on less. Hcg Diet Dosage.

    8. Hcg Potency: Hcg begins to lose its potency after 2 weeks, however if you have purchased from a quality source, you shouldn't have an issue with potency throughout even a long round. The high quality HCG brands last much longer than generic or cheap brands so keep that in mind. If you have good quality hcg, you can use this for up to 40 days. If you have lower quality hcg, you may need two bottles for 1 round (Mix again at 2 weeks.) It is never recommended that anyone use it past 30 days because of the bacteriostatic water used to mix the hcg, only lasts for 30 days. Again, do not buy vials of 10,000- you are wasting your money because you simply cannot use up a 10,000 iu bottle before it loses potency.

    Hcg Storage: Store all unused vials in your fridge to prolong potency. It is not necessary to freeze.

    Dosage for Hcg Injections or Drops:

    9. Shots- 1 vial of 5000iu is sufficient for a short round (23-29 days). For a long round, you can purchase 2 vials (or the longer period hcg kit) and re-mix after 20 days with a fresh supply of hcg. At a dose of 150, one vial will last you 13 days, so you’ll need 2 for a short round- 3 if you think you’ll need a higher dose. [b]For a long round I’d purchase 2 vials of quality hcg, or 4 vials of generic at once.[\b]

    10. Drops- Drops- Since there are now options to purchase prescription Hcg drops, this makes it simple. If purchasing prescription drops, consider ordering at the time you need them, so they do not lose potency sitting on your counter. I realize this is more expensive, but you want potent drops. For homeopathic drops, it is safe to order multiple rounds at once since they do not lose potency and operate under different rules.




    11. How long to do an Hcg diet round:
    Remember that you can do a round anywhere between 23-40 days. Some people believe you stabilize better with rounds at least 30 days. To figure out how much you need, estimate your dose and multiply it by how many days you want to do. If you think you’ll use 175 iu’s and you want to do a round of 30 days, you’ll need two vials of 5000iu. Or you could cut it by a couple of days and buy one vial (1 month) of 5000 iu's.


    Supplies- I strongly suggest purchasing a complete Hcg kit so all the accurate supplies are included with your order. However, if you have purchased from a company and only ordered individual hCG vials, you’ll need additional supplies for mixing and injection.

    If you do NOT purchase a complete kit, you will need the following supplies:

    Supplies needed for shots: sterile vials, accurate syringes, bacteriostatic water or bacteriostatic sodium chloride, alcohol swabs, and accurate mixing needles.

    A) Vials- I buy the 10 cc clear vials from recommended hcg supplies . The clear ones are less expensive, and you can cover them with foil (your hcg needs to be protected from light, and kept in the fridge).
    B) Syringes- I prefer the 29 gauge syringes for intramuscular injections. Buy ” long, 1 cc syringes. Most people use the smaller needles for subq injection which are insulin needles and very tiny.
    C) Bacteriostatic Water- This lasts for 30 days once opened. However, if you use good sterile technique some doctors say that it’s ok to use it for the length of your round, even if 40 days. Therefore you’ll need one bottle (30 cc’s) for each round you do.
    D) Mixing needles- You need something to get the Hcg out of it’s vial and into your sterile vial. In most states you can buy syringes individually (for about 30 cents) over the counter at your local pharmacy. A common size that works is 1.5” long (make sure it’s at least this long, to reach the bottom of the vial), 3 cc’s, and 22 or 23 gauge. You will need one of these for each vial of Hcg you buy- you need to use a new one each time.

    Supplies For Hcg Drops- It is highly recommended that you simply purchase QUALITY prescription HCG drops, or genuine homeopathic drops rather than mix your own. For those who are curious about what is required, these are the supplies for mixing Rx hcg drops: You’ll need a glass bottle/vial (anything that you can reach the bottom of with your baby syringe), a baby syringe, and sodium chloride- marketed as “Wound Wash” and available at most pharmacies. This is generally in a spray can, and you discharge some into a clean cup and then draw up what you need with your mixing needle. You can buy the baby syringe (make sure it holds cc) at a pharmacy, or many times they will give you one for free if you ask. I do NOT recommend you buy Mazu. Buy the hcg alone and mix it with the sodium chloride. In my honest opinion, I do not recommend mixing your own Hcg drops; it is simply not worth the complicated process nor the risks of doing it incorrectly.

    Learning more....

    While you wait for your Hcg diet kit order: Read the original hcg diet protocol and Dr. Simeons Manuscript, "Pounds and Inches" to understand his original protocol.
    This is what I've been looking for. I am starting my second round in October and this info is priceless.
    Thank a million....!


    R3-P4

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    This info is invaluable! Thank you so much a couple questions though. You recommend http://www.healthwarehouse.com/needl...sable-syringes for the insulin needles, 29 gauge, I cant seem to find them on this site. The mixing needle at http://www.gpzservices.com/items/pro...n15-detail.htm is only in quantity of 25 or more? Any suggestions would be so helpful. Thank You!

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    http://www.healthwarehouse.com/diabe...100-count.html Go to "diabetic supplies", and the "shop by gauge"

    yes, 25 is the minimal amount for the mixing needle. but in most states you can buy them OTC at the pharmacy, one at a time. these would work, too. http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-NEEDLES-18...item1c0f73932a
    Buying Hcg: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums...i-start-39144/

    Help if Hungry: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums...se-read-27902/

    Where to Buy Real Prescription Hcg Injections, Drops and Tablets: https://hcgdietinfo.com/buy-hcg-injections-online/


    Disclaimer: I am a retired moderator of these forums. I am not a medical doctor. My statements are not intended to treat, diagnose, cure or prevent any medical condition. Read more: http://hcgdietinfo.com/hcgdietforums...2/#post1020418

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsondance View Post
    http://www.healthwarehouse.com/diabe...100-count.html Go to "diabetic supplies", and the "shop by gauge"

    yes, 25 is the minimal amount for the mixing needle. but in most states you can buy them OTC at the pharmacy, one at a time. these would work, too. http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-NEEDLES-18...item1c0f73932a
    Have your heard of anyone ordering the kits for hcgforyou.com?

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